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#496024 - 09/08/18 08:21 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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We ended up with an additional 1.5”. Add that to the 2.3” we received on the 6th. It’s better than ususal. I doubt we got close to full, but I may just be 2’ down which really helps going into fall. Who knows, it may be a wet October. So far today we’ve received .1” up at the pond, but almost 2” in St Louis. Hope you’re getting some of this Bob.
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#496032 - 09/08/18 11:16 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Over the last 12 hours or so, I've got just over 3.5" of rain. I don't think I'll get much more, maybe a few more sprinkles. It came down pretty slow and steady, so not a lot of run off, and still none from the upper watershed. The pond was up at least a foot this morning, and still trickling in. I will check later and see where it's at. Not what I was hoping for, but better than nothing.
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#496051 - 09/08/18 09:32 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Well it didn't really come up anymore from this morning. I think it came up about 1.5' total. It's hard for me to say for sure, it went over the one measuring stake and I had to start getting my readings from the next stake up. Now to wait and see how well it holds it.lol!
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#496053 - 09/08/18 09:46 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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We got enough rain here to fill my small sediment and forage ponds and the main pond is just right at full. I don't think any went over the overflow but it is right there. The old pond and the newish RES ponds are still a foot of so low but they have came up some.

I was glad to see the main pond up to full for the PBF get together September 22, 2018 in Pittsburg, Kansas.

Thing of it is for us farmers, some nice weather now to finish getting the corn crop out would be nice. Don't really need a muddy harvest and we are right on the edge of that now. More rain would complicate that but would be nice to finish filling the other ponds and get some flow through in the main pond.

What can I say. Farmers are never satisfied with the weather. grin


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#496061 - 09/08/18 11:58 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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One good thing about owning a pond is most of the time your happy when it rains.lol!
What burns my but is I just watched the news, and several places just east of me got over 8" and one over 9".
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#496106 - 09/10/18 08:20 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Mine came up about a 1.5’. I’m happy with that. We had close to 4”. Some came down hard with good runoff. The pond looks much better with water in it. lol &#128514;
Mowed for hours yesterday then dove in. That rain water was on the cool side. Plus it was only 73 out. Didn’t stay in too long. Water is on the brown side, hopefully it’ll settle some by next weekend. Grandkids in and they want to swim and catch lots of fish.
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#496107 - 09/10/18 08:24 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Here on the west side of MO I got plenty of rain - filled the pond and I got to see the primary drain pipe run in siphon mode. An 8 inch line can really gush a lot of water. Fortunately the emergency spillway did not come into play. Certainly seems like the drought is over and I hope you guys get your ponds filled this fall!
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#496126 - 09/10/18 01:29 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Glad to hear you guys are getting filled up! Hopefully one of these days I can join you. Lol! I made it back to the sediment pond yesterday to check things out and it didn't even come close to filling up and flowing into the main pond.
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#498304 - 11/02/18 04:15 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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I thought I'd do a up date, since it's been a while. Finally got a little rain over the last few days. About 2", not much but the most I've got since early September. It was enough to bring the pond up around 7".
Before I got this rain it was dropping about .25" or less a day. I've had some days that it was under .125". The cycle seems to be after a good level increase, it will drop around .5" a day, until it drops about half of what it gained and then start slowing down.
We've got a few more chances of rain over the next week, so maybe I'll get lucky and get a little more.
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#498305 - 11/02/18 04:16 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Are the rest of you getting any rain?
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#498316 - 11/02/18 11:26 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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1.34 inches here from Wednesday overnight until it ended by daylight this morning. Slow rain, not much runoff. Ponds came up a little over 1-1/2 inches. We need a fast rain, over 2 inches.
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#498318 - 11/03/18 05:12 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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I think we are supposed to get some more tomorrow Bob, hope we get you a good gullywasher. We’ve missed almost all of this recent rain, but got 5” early in Oct. My pond is pretty close to full. Up 4’ from its lowest. Luckily my renter got his beans out, but it’s still too wet to get wheat in. Not sure how that will effect runoff at our place, I would assume I’ll get better runoff this winter and spring.
We shall see.
I’m wondering if that level of your pond where the water drops faster indicates that there is a leak at that level? I shouldn’t speculate, I’m certainly no expert.
Hope you get some Sunday & Monday.
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#498332 - 11/03/18 09:14 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Jeff, I'm not sure if you know what I mean. I'm not sure I'm saying it right. Lol! I mean every time it comes up to a new level that hasn't been under water since last March, it will drop faster at first, then slow down. It always slows down before it gets back down to the level it was before it rained. Kind of like 2 steps forward 1 step back 2 steps forward 1 step back.
Since most of my watershed is heavily wooded, I think I should get better run off over the winter after all the leaves fall off and things go more dormant. I think I'm going to try to thin my woods out some over the winter, so maybe I'll get better run off next year.
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#498383 - 11/05/18 12:28 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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I ended up getting .40" yesterday, not as much as I thought I'd get, but I'll take it. It gave me a little over a inch in the pond. I think I have a better chance of rain later today.
When I went over to check it yesterday, I wasn't happy to see a GBH fly off.
I also think I have a little duckweed growing in my little sediment pond. I don't think much about it when I first seen it. I didn't know what it was and I just figured it was only growing because of how shallow it is. It's only had about 2' of water in it all summer. Then I started thinking it's going to wash into my main pond if I get enough rain. Do I need to do something about it?
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#498384 - 11/05/18 12:35 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Here is a picture of what I have.


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#498385 - 11/05/18 12:40 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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#498388 - 11/05/18 01:00 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Sure looks like the dreaded duck weed to me. We never had much of it, till this summer. We had loads of it this year! I'd zap it when it's still small in amount. It tends to double in quantity every 48 hrs, under ideal conditions (if I recall my PB forum schooling correctly).
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#498395 - 11/05/18 03:06 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Thanks DrLuke! Should I just try to use my pool skimmer since my sediment pond is pretty small, or should I use some kind of herbicide, or both?
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#498397 - 11/05/18 03:29 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Duckweed. They will die off with cold weather. You won't accomplish much by skimming them now except to remove some plant biomass.
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#498405 - 11/05/18 06:13 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Originally Posted By: Bobbss
Jeff, I'm not sure if you know what I mean. I'm not sure I'm saying it right. Lol! I mean every time it comes up to a new level that hasn't been under water since last March, it will drop faster at first, then slow down. It always slows down before it gets back down to the level it was before it rained. Kind of like 2 steps forward 1 step back 2 steps forward 1 step back.
Since most of my watershed is heavily wooded, I think I should get better run off over the winter after all the leaves fall off and things go more dormant. I think I'm going to try to thin my woods out some over the winter, so maybe I'll get better run off next year.


You’re right Bob. I misunderstood. I thought it was always going back quickly to the same spot. I didn’t realize you were stair stepping up like you are. How many feet to full?
I did get 1” at our place yesterday. Probably got a little more runoff that usual with all the beans out.
Hope you’re getting full
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#498410 - 11/05/18 09:07 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Here is my precipitation for the past seven days: 0.13,0.80,0.41,trace,0.48,0.0,0.13. Total 1.95, but very little runoff. It's a pattern that's been going on for several months.
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#498414 - 11/05/18 11:21 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Bob, the leaves do look like duckweed, but your first pic shows a possible stem attached....if so, it is not duckweed. Duckweed usually has 2 opposing side leafs, with a couple short root strands like short white threads......

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#498415 - 11/05/18 11:31 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Jeff, unfortunately until last week it had been in the back step motion since the first of September, do to lack of rain. For the 7 weeks or so before last week, I had only a few small rains. So I really haven't gained much in a while. I gained about 1.5' back early in September and I lost a lot of that over that 7 weeks, but I've gained that back now.I still have probably over 11' to go.
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#498416 - 11/05/18 11:43 PM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Thanks Rex,that stem you see is something else, not sure what. They just have a little root that looks like a hair, about a inch or so long. I have a better picture but I couldn't get it to upload from my phone do to size.
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#498418 - 11/06/18 12:03 AM Re: New Pond Construction In Jefferson Co, Mo. [Re: Bobbss]
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Here is a better one.


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