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#496758 - 09/23/18 01:33 PM Hello from Central Texas
45operator Offline


Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Texas
I've been on this forum for a while, just reading and learning. I purchased 50 acres 18 yrs ago with a watering hole for livestock. Never would hold much water. I purchased a KX080 excavator a year ago to work on my place a nod build new ponds. I fixed my leaking watering hole. I purchased Mike Otto's book Just add Water. Great reading. Now I have neighbors asking me to fix their ponds. I'm not sure where to start with pricing and bidding, or just as a base. Measurements of cubic yards, hourly rates? Any input would be appreciated.

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#496760 - 09/23/18 01:49 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
anthropic Offline


Registered: 05/03/14
Posts: 1385
Loc: Louisiana, USA
If you're a quick worker, charge by the cubic yard.
If you're not, charge by the hour! laugh

Seriously, there are people here who can advise you better than I can re pricing. I would say that it is super important to learn the soils, the watershed, and to understand what can be fixed and what cannot. You don't want to promise what you can't deliver, which may mean sometimes not taking jobs. Especially when you are first starting out, failures can really hurt your reputation.
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#496762 - 09/23/18 02:12 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
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Registered: 09/12/14
Posts: 1040
Loc: Deep East Texas
Well said Ant!! Great advise.
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#496765 - 09/23/18 03:39 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
ronman Offline


Registered: 08/14/18
Posts: 4
Loc: central texas
I can probably get with my son to give you some idea of what rate to charge. He is an estimator for a construction company. He would need to know the size of the bucket that you have on your machine, i.e. 18", 24", ok? Please understand that digging new ponds is not the same deal as cleaning out ponds, especially older ponds with deep
muck. You can sink your track machine to your eyeballs in that muck.
This forum has quite a bit of information on the subject of cleaning
the muck out of ponds. Some of the nightmares were very informative.

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#496767 - 09/23/18 04:18 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: ronman]
anthropic Offline


Registered: 05/03/14
Posts: 1385
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Originally Posted By: ronman
I can probably get with my son to give you some idea of what rate to charge. He is an estimator for a construction company. He would need to know the size of the bucket that you have on your machine, i.e. 18", 24", ok? Please understand that digging new ponds is not the same deal as cleaning out ponds, especially older ponds with deep
muck. You can sink your track machine to your eyeballs in that muck.
This forum has quite a bit of information on the subject of cleaning
the muck out of ponds. Some of the nightmares were very informative.


Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from a lack of wisdom, as I've proven time and again.


Edited by anthropic (09/23/18 04:18 PM)
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#496768 - 09/23/18 04:21 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: Flame]
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Registered: 05/03/14
Posts: 1385
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Thanks, Flame! Hope your hot rod pond is getting plenty of rain, mine is FINALLY starting to rise after being two feet low for months.


Edited by anthropic (09/23/18 04:22 PM)
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#496776 - 09/23/18 10:39 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: ronman]
45operator Offline


Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Texas
36 in bucket.

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#496777 - 09/23/18 10:43 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
45operator Offline


Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Texas
I've seen the baptism of equipment cleaning out a pond. Friend had 2 dozers, skid steer stuck in the muck. Took a little excavator to dig all 3 out.

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#496788 - 09/24/18 09:03 AM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
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Registered: 09/12/14
Posts: 1040
Loc: Deep East Texas
We have had 8 1/2 inches of rain this month but scattered out too much. Pond has come up about 6 inches but am still near 3 foot low. Visibility is very low...only about 6 inches and fish are feeding very slow. Little worried.
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#496792 - 09/24/18 09:20 AM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: ronman]
45operator Offline


Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Texas
I have a 36 in bucket, .44 cubic yard.

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#496840 - 09/25/18 12:38 PM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
ronman Offline


Registered: 08/14/18
Posts: 4
Loc: central texas
To 45operator: In our central Texas area the rate runs about $125 per hour for an operator with a large excavator using a 36" bucket. Also,
the equipment moving cost is quite high. The move-in and move-out for only a short distance can run a total of about #750.
Hope this information is helpful. Ron

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#496861 - 09/26/18 12:39 AM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: ronman]
45operator Offline


Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Texas
It's an 18000 lb machine.

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#496863 - 09/26/18 07:03 AM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
Bob Lusk Offline
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Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 3103
Loc: Whitesboro, Texas
Call Mike Otto and go spend some time riding around with him. I expect he'd be happy to talk and share his experiences.
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He can teach to catch fish...

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#496867 - 09/26/18 10:15 AM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
Dave Davidson1 Offline
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Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 13562
Loc: Hurst & Bowie, Texas
Agree with Bob. Contact Otto.
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#496873 - 09/26/18 11:30 AM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
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Registered: 03/08/05
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Call Mike Otto - none better.

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#497686 - Today at 11:16 AM Re: Hello from Central Texas [Re: 45operator]
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Registered: 10/17/18
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Loc: Tampa, Florida
Hello and welcome aboard!

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