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#495232 - 08/23/18 01:35 PM Solar powered aeration, small scall
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Registered: 07/09/11
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Loc: East Texas
I have had an idea for a while. I am going to try using small scale aeration in my brood ponds, and the cool part is they will be direct drive solar aeration systems using a 10 watt solar panel and a small geared DC motor and a plastic squirrel cage fan.

I am wondering which orientation will serve me better?

I have tested both horizontal and vertical orientations. Here are the videos:





The vertical setup moves water through the air better, but the horizontal draw more water up as it moves water away from the turbine. So now which one is better for aeration of a brood pond?
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#495234 - 08/23/18 02:05 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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I would guess the vertical as the splashing exposes more water surface to air.

But perhaps using the solar power to run a small air pump and stone at the bottom would be better yet.
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#495242 - 08/23/18 02:59 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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I don't know the answer to your question...I like the vertical option, but what if you mounted a pvc pipe beneath the horizontally mounted squirrel cage so that the water that it pulls up would come from the bottom instead of right beneath it?

Edit: Oh, and BTW...How did you get your pond so clear?;) justkidding!


Edited by Quarter Acre (08/23/18 03:00 PM)
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#495245 - 08/23/18 04:21 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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You know my vote.....

Put a 1HP motor on that thing and turn the whole brood pond into Claas 5 rapids!!!!! Haha
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#495296 - 08/24/18 07:15 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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Class 5 would be a bit much.

Its only 10 watts and a little DC geared motor. I do like the amount of water it moves. I hope to have it in the water and working in a few days.

BTW I did talk the pond boss and he says horizontal would be better in Texas, so horizontal testing goes first!
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#495298 - 08/24/18 07:33 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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You might consider a propeller instead of a squirrel cage. I guess it depends on if you are trying to move water or to splash water. I would think the propeller would move water better for a given amount of power but the squirrel cage would agitate it more.

I'm just thinking they use propellers on boats instead of squirrel cage probably for good reason.
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#495299 - 08/24/18 08:14 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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John,

I'll bring them up next month and everyone will be able to see them in action, that is if I have the time to finish this project in time....

About props, I thought about them, but I want to move water not splash it. After all, I have $6 dollars per motor invested.
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#495335 - 08/25/18 06:09 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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Loc: Harrison Co. Texas
Brian, To splash or not to splash, that is the question. I see a miniature DO meter in your future to go with your miniature squirrel cages. smile Keep us posted on your findings. For me, I would like to find solar powered, battery storage surface air without it costing an arm and a leg. Oh! and one that would cover at least a half acre. So, please keep working on your system. smile
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#495342 - 08/25/18 11:19 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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Loc: East Texas
Tracy,
You know me better than that. I have a DO meter, and I know how to use it!

About solar powered aeration, you need to stop by and see what I am working on now...

And if you want to aerate a half acre, we can talk.
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#495345 - 08/25/18 11:58 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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Originally Posted By: highflyer
John,

I'll bring them up next month and everyone will be able to see them in action, that is if I have the time to finish this project in time....

About props, I thought about them, but I want to move water not splash it. After all, I have $6 dollars per motor invested.


Just one more reason to attend. Come see Brian's small acale solar aeration. PB Forum meet and greet informal get together in SE Kansas

Those might be just the ticket for our small ponds like my forage pond and your Topias Brian.
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#495352 - 08/26/18 07:29 AM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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Registered: 09/19/14
Posts: 2991
Loc: Harrison Co. Texas
Brian, I do need to come by. Looks like you need a third hand to hold the DO meter when testing your small scale aerators. I knew you have a do meter, in fact a better one than I do. I had to order a new probe, it took about 6 weeks to get it. Delivered last week by Fed X, in a small box that for some reason my Golden Retriever pup decided to taste or make a game out of chewing the whole box and probe up. I now have to order another one and will most likely have to wait another 6 weeks for delivery plus another 100 for the new one.

Snrub, been giving it some serious thought to come up anyway.


Edited by TGW1 (08/26/18 07:30 AM)
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#495354 - 08/26/18 08:42 AM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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Registered: 04/15/12
Posts: 159
Loc: mi.
why not use a bilge pump and make a venturi. It will put out more oxygen.

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#495372 - 08/26/18 01:50 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: TGW1]
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Hey Tracy I make it down to Brians and I'm pretty sure it is a shorter drive coming north than going south. grin Come on up.
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#496153 - 09/10/18 09:43 PM Re: Solar powered aeration, small scall [Re: highflyer]
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Registered: 07/09/11
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Loc: East Texas
John K,

The setup is 10 watts max. I am using more like 8 watts. I have moved on to version three and it looks like the winner. It will lift water quite nicely. I was impressed as to how much water it moves even shaded. Now that I have version three, it is time to test in a brood pond and see how much water it moved daily.

And yes version 3 will make it to John's party!

Tracy,
You are welcome anytime. There are always projects in the works!

Here is a video of Ver2 testing. P factor is the only problem I need to solve and I think it will be through tethering (KISS).



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