Forums36
Topics40,944
Posts557,788
Members18,483
|
Most Online3,612 Jan 10th, 2023
|
|
6 members (Steve Clubb, Boondoggle, Bill Cody, Snipe, Dave Davidson1, FishinRod),
1,045
guests, and
207
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
Looking for suggestions on submerged plants for new pond. Eel grass has failed to persist in several other pond on my place after planting and initial establishment, so I am not going to try that again. The pond is 1/2 acre with fairly steep banks, and currently has FHM and LCS in it, with plans to add blue catfish last after adding another intermediate forage fish (likely black crappie). Currently, I have a lotus started and added a couple pickerel weed and duck potato plants with plans to add a couple spike rush. Also as background, we have curly leaf pondweed in another pond which, so far, has not become a problem after a few years (maybe due to papershell crayfish?). Would like to get more civilized submergent plants established if possible to help keep undesirables from being the only thing present (expect invasion of curly leaf pondweed at some point). Suggestions appreciated, especially if useful to wildlife.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274 Likes: 5
Fingerling
|
Fingerling
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274 Likes: 5 |
MO Dept of Conservation suggests wild celery and water star grass for submerged plants in a pond: https://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/downloads/page/aquaticplantsinpond.pdfI have transplanted some spikerush, arrowhead, and burhead on my shoreline with minimal success. I suspect two issues - mostly poor clay bank, and deer yanking them out. Where did you find the eel grass? I would like to try some.
Last edited by Redonthehead; 06/12/18 08:54 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
Thank you. Wild celery and eel grass are the same thing (Vallisneria sp.). I need to investigate star grass. I have had good luck with various species of spikerush, arrowhead (broadleaf arrowhead is also called duck potato), and with giant bureed. I put thorny honey locust branches over and around plants that deer pick on until they establish. These branches rot away over time so require no cleanup.
Anybody have a quality source for water stargrass?
Last edited by RAH; 06/12/18 09:51 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
Anybody know a quality source for water stargrass? Heteranthera dubia
bumped up
Last edited by RAH; 06/13/18 05:44 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
Anybody know a quality source for water stargrass? Heteranthera dubia
double bump
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 272 Likes: 3
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 272 Likes: 3 |
I am in the same boat, I planted some native lily pads in rubber made totes with garden soil that seem to be doing pretty good, and im gonna try grow some spiral Vallisneria it doesnt grow as tall. I wass going to plant it at first in a rubber made tote and as it grows out add the grow out pieces into the pond
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
I think my environmental or water chemistry is not favorable to persistence of eel grass which is why I am now looking for water stargrass (Heteranthera dubia) which is locally native, but I cannot find a source. Nice fat fish!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274 Likes: 5
Fingerling
|
Fingerling
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274 Likes: 5 |
RAH - where did you get the eel grass?
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
I ordered some online from aquarium suppliers (two different ones but I cannot remember who), but a generous Pond Boss member sent me the plants that persisted the longest (almost 2 years). They too disappeared.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,344 Likes: 101
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,344 Likes: 101 |
RAH, Did you get any submerged veggies going? I have started my quest for adding some to my pond. I will be looking in to the American Pondweed as well and the Water Star Grass, but I have not researched enough to make any decisions yet. My pond seems to have lower DO levels, or at least recent testing indicates so. I hope to add some plants to assist with DO production.
Fish on!, Noel
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
Are the plants that you mentioned submerged or emergent? I have lots of emergent plants but have only tried ell grass as a submerged plant.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,344 Likes: 101
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,344 Likes: 101 |
The Water Star Grass is listed as a submerged plant per the Mo Conservation link that Redonthehead posted. I assume the American Pondweed is also.
Fish on!, Noel
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282
Lunker
|
OP
Lunker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,722 Likes: 282 |
If you find a supplier for water star grass, please let me know.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 1,137 Likes: 276
|
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 1,137 Likes: 276 |
I'd be happy to share some APW with you.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,344 Likes: 101
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,344 Likes: 101 |
Fish on!, Noel
|
|
|
Moderated by Bill Cody, Bruce Condello, catmandoo, Chris Steelman, Dave Davidson1, esshup, ewest, FireIsHot, Omaha, Sunil, teehjaeh57
|
|