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#490025 - 05/13/18 04:15 PM Re: Ridding of leaves [Re: dchance]
DannyMac Offline

Registered: 04/15/18
Posts: 47
Loc: Bexar county Texas
Ordered 200 adult size on Ebay Friday, $30 free shipping. Been planting underwater plants for cover for bluegill fry. Also, using "Muck Away" tablets and aeration, with good effect on oak leaves. Maybe the scrubs can save me money on bacteria infusions and provide more live food.

Edited by DannyMac (05/13/18 04:20 PM)
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#490038 - 05/14/18 07:09 AM Re: Ridding of leaves [Re: dchance]
SetterGuy Offline

Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 1296
Loc: NE Missouri
Iíve got a decent population of grass/glass shrimp, but no grass or hardly any vegetation in my pond. I guess the shrimp are feeding on my leaves. Hopefully they can keep them in check. As mentioned before, they (the leaves, not the shrimp) seem to pile up on one end or the other due to wind. Hoping I donít have too many in the deeper areas.

Edited by SetterGuy (05/14/18 09:33 AM)
4 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.

#493153 - 07/03/18 10:19 AM Re: Ridding of leaves [Re: dchance]
Lando Offline

Registered: 04/16/18
Posts: 3
Loc: GA
Hey all,
Came across this thread and now I am obsessed with determining if my pond has scuds, and if not, trying to get a population going.

I have a 3 acre pond in the Atlanta burbs and I believe scuds are a common fly used in the nearby Chattahoochee. The Hooch is fed by lake Lanier and the water coming out of the dam is quite cold, would scuds survive in a warmer pond environment like mine? There is quite a bit of alligator weed that seems like ideal hiding/feeding ground for them. I tossed a piece of Zucchini in my crayfish trap next to it this morning to see if they are already established. Has anybody had luck establishing scuds in the warmer regions? I see a lot of posts from guys up north and wonder if this is a fools errand for my pond. Ultimately my goal is to decrease a lot of the muck caused by falling leaves etc. and also providing an additional food source for my Bream and Bass. Any advice is welcome!

#493155 - 07/03/18 11:22 AM Re: Ridding of leaves [Re: DonoBBD]
jpsdad Offline

Registered: 05/20/18
Posts: 145
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: DonoBBD
I don't know. I bought ours from and aquarium hobbyist.

There are so many different ones. I would like to get larger ones myself. The ones we have get to a max size of 5mm.

This is where I have learned most of what I know about scuds. Now with our own experience with just a few you can make millions over time.

Thanks for this link. This particular variety appears to be adapted to warmer climates and are cultured in Texas. The webpage didn't mention the species or their origin. Would anyone here know what species they are and whether one might also find them occurring naturally in Texas?

Have to wonder if this is Hyalella_Azteca which has wide distribution in Texas ... and North and Central America for that matter.

Edited by jpsdad (07/03/18 11:49 AM)

#493162 - 07/03/18 12:38 PM Re: Ridding of leaves [Re: dchance]
Mike Whatley Offline

Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 453
Loc: Louisiana
Do scuds live primarily on the pond floor or do they need some kind of vegetation to thrive in?
.10 surface acre pond, 10.5 foot deep. SW LA. The epidomy of a mutt pond. BG, LMB, GSF, RES, BH, Warmouth, FHM, Longear Sunfish, Gambusia and apparently, now crappie.

#493164 - 07/03/18 01:19 PM Re: Ridding of leaves [Re: Mike Whatley]
jpsdad Offline

Registered: 05/20/18
Posts: 145
Loc: Texas
I've seen the cool water scuds associated with FA and other vegetation. I've seen some that used rock as cover where you could lift a rock and find scuds beneath. They can eat algae like FA and diatoms as well as detritus. So they can be benthic if the need arises but vegetation, IMHO, provides cover and will help to support greater numbers (particularly if Gammarus).

On the other hand, Hyalella Azteca is described by as a sediment dweller by Wikipedia and I presume that pond vegetation though a benefit wouldn't be required:

Because of their wide distribution, ease of captive reproduction, and its niche in lake sediments, Hyalella azteca is used in aquatic toxicology assays in sediments [8]

Edited by jpsdad (07/03/18 01:22 PM)

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