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#489518 - 05/04/18 08:32 AM Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds
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This is problem i have big mouth bass but i dont have bluegill but have pumkinseeds sunfish,can i use them instead.and would bigmouth bass eat black bullhead(and can they co exists with red fin perch and carp)

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#489562 - 05/05/18 07:50 AM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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And can i use red fin perch instead of yellow perch

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#489564 - 05/05/18 09:05 AM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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A bass, like all fish, will eat just about anything that will fit in its mouth.
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#489567 - 05/05/18 10:50 AM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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Do bass eat young carp

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#489571 - 05/05/18 02:33 PM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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Bass will eat anything that it can get in its mouth. But, the target fish needs to be between 1/4 to 1/3 the bass's size. It's a matter of energy expended vs calories obtained.


Edited by Dave Davidson1 (05/05/18 09:04 PM)
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#489573 - 05/05/18 02:39 PM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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So it could work but how many i lmb can i stock in 15x6 x 3 meters pond

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#489577 - 05/05/18 09:10 PM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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My math could easily be wrong but I BELIEVE you have about 1/2 acre. Is that right?
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#489579 - 05/05/18 09:13 PM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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What is your climate and water temps? I know very little about your area.
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#489585 - 05/05/18 11:13 PM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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I'm doing the math a little different. I'm understanding the pond is 15 x 6 meters and 3 meters deep. That makes the pond a little less than 1000 square feet surface area or about 1/43 acre??? If that is correct, then IMHO you can have 2 or 3 LMB.


Edited by Bill D. (05/05/18 11:21 PM)
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#489589 - 05/06/18 05:20 AM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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Thanks Bill, I figured I was doing something wrong on my conversion from meters to sq ft.
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#489591 - 05/06/18 05:46 AM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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Thank you for replies and for temperature it goes from 10 to 20 - 21 celsius it has hot summers not very cold winters and medium autums and springs

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#489592 - 05/06/18 05:49 AM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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But can i use black bullhead catfish and pumkinseed sunfish imstead of bluegill as forage(and put gravel on bottom so bullheads cant muddy the water) and put red fin perch instead of yellow perch and most importantly to put some common carps into mix (i like their meat)and i will throw out fish every time it is over populated

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#489608 - 05/06/18 10:46 AM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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I cant get lmb but i can get northern pike,wels catfish,zander (european version of welleye) and red fin perch that grows the size of lmb.so my questions is do any of this fish eat following species pumkinseed sunfish,brown/black bullhead catfish and small common carp.

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#489630 - 05/06/18 09:17 PM Re: Slightly changing classical fish types in ponds [Re: matija]
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IMO all the predators you mentioned will eat the forage you mentioned if appropriately sized for their mouth gap. I suspect, given such a small BOW, the problem you will have is having self sustaining forage to support your predators. I would be prepared to stock additional forage periodically to keep the predators fed.


Edited by Bill D. (05/06/18 09:48 PM)
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