Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Kanon M, KWL, Homestead 101, Willy Wonka, gautprod
18,494 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,958
Posts557,921
Members18,495
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,533
ewest 21,493
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,145
Who's Online Now
12 members (catscratch, Sunil, canyoncreek, Jward87, Joe7328, DrewSh, teehjaeh57, jludwig, Shorthose, Justin W, Don Kennedy, Kanon M), 871 guests, and 282 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 38
Likes: 3
A
OP Offline
A
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 38
Likes: 3
Hi Folks,

I'm not sure whether this or the "Food Chain" category is the right place to post this thread, but I am trying to get a pond (2-3) acres that I am planning right now to run on autopilot as much as possible, and I wanted to see what structures and designs I can incorporate into the BOW that will give forage fish like Mosquitofish, Golden Shiners, Emerald Shiners, and Fathead Minnows refuge and spawning sites so that they can continue to provide abundant forage for the pond's game species: Black Crappie and Smallmouth Bass.

I have heard about sinking shipping pallets for fathead spawning, and also know that most of these minnows like shallow areas with underwater vegetation, so would it make sense to also include a 1/2-acre shallow area and plant it well as a minnow haven? Also, would building rock piles also give them some safety from the crappie and smallmouths?

Thanks!

Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,424
Likes: 19
J
Offline
J
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,424
Likes: 19
Fathead minnows will not coexist for more than a season or so with bass. Given sufficient shelter, Gambusia (mosquito fish) seem to do somewhat better, but they are smaller. Bluegill make the best food chain for bass.

Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 6,080
Likes: 1
Offline
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 6,080
Likes: 1
I salute you for considering and planning for your forage propagation and survival!

Here's some random thoughts from a non-pro...

IMHO.....

I agree with John F., keeping FHM in a pond full of BCP and SMB is probably mission impossible. I would stock FHM first and let them spawn for awhile anyway just to get your game fish off to a good start when you stock them.

Emerald shiners are not noted for reproducing in ponds although there is a Canadian member that has them in his pond successfully. He has moving water in his pond.

Have you considered SFS or STS? SFS are crevice spawners so you would need to provide appropriate spawning structure. I don't know what STS require.

GSH should work if you get them in and established before the BCP and SMB. They like grass/weeds to broadcast their eggs on for spawning.

I would worry that SMB can't control the BCP recruitment. Maybe consider an open water predator like HSB in addition to the SMB?

One of the favorite forages for SMB is crawfish. Getting them started is way easier with no predators. You would need rock piles, slabs of broken concrete, etc for them. I would go with PSC or other species that does not burrow much that is native to your area.

Good luck!

I'm looking forward to following along as your project progresses!

Bill D.

Last edited by Bill D.; 05/03/18 08:07 PM.

[Linked Image]
Be Brave Enough to Suck at Something New!
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 3,952
Likes: 184
P
Offline
P
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 3,952
Likes: 184
Originally Posted By: AR-Tenner
Hi Folks,

I'm not sure whether this or the "Food Chain" category is the right place to post this thread, but I am trying to get a pond (2-3) acres that I am planning right now to run on autopilot as much as possible, and I wanted to see what structures and designs I can incorporate into the BOW that will give forage fish like Mosquitofish, Golden Shiners, Emerald Shiners, and Fathead Minnows refuge and spawning sites so that they can continue to provide abundant forage for the pond's game species: Black Crappie and Smallmouth Bass.

I have heard about sinking shipping pallets for fathead spawning, and also know that most of these minnows like shallow areas with underwater vegetation, so would it make sense to also include a 1/2-acre shallow area and plant it well as a minnow haven? Also, would building rock piles also give them some safety from the crappie and smallmouths?

AR
I would try to get as diversified a food chain established a good year before you stock the preds
Thanks!


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
island_beam
Recent Posts
Need help
by Jward87 - 04/23/24 11:37 AM
Howdy from West Central Louisiana
by Kanon M - 04/23/24 11:04 AM
Happy Birthday Theo!
by DrewSh - 04/23/24 10:33 AM
What did you do at your pond today?
by canyoncreek - 04/23/24 10:16 AM
Caught a couple nice bass lately...
by FishinRod - 04/23/24 10:08 AM
What’s the easiest way to get rid of leaves
by DrewSh - 04/23/24 10:04 AM
Considering expansion of DIY solar aeration
by ghdmd - 04/23/24 09:42 AM
1 year after stocking question
by Joeydickens93 - 04/23/24 07:21 AM
Horizontal vs Vertical (big bass)?
by catscratch - 04/23/24 05:34 AM
Happy Birthday Sparkplug!
by teehjaeh57 - 04/23/24 12:34 AM
American Feeder H 125 Fish Feeder
by teehjaeh57 - 04/23/24 12:33 AM
Bluegill problem
by Snipe - 04/22/24 11:55 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5