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#469519 - 04/13/17 10:11 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Registered: 10/07/12
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Loc: West Central MO
I have recaught a couple of tagged fish already this year. One was originally tagged in June of 2015 and the tag site looks like a fresh wound with a raw ,red fleshy bump protruding. Is this possibly irritation from spawning? Most of the other tag sites have looked well healed. Anyone else notice anything like this?
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#488612 - 04/15/18 12:52 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Loc: West Central MO
I am bringing this thread back up to use it as a place to compare yearly results after finishing my spread sheet data.

2017 logged 109 LM caught, 47 culled, ave WR 89.5
LM <12" caught 59, culled 31; ave WR 86.6%
+12-15.5" caught 33, culled 14; ave WR 90.6
16"+ caught 17, culled 2; ave WR 94.9%
Tagged 7 new LM and re-caught 8 previously tagged fish.
372 BG caught, 63 were culled- these were 8" or bigger fish.

WR on LM is up overall from 2016 by over 7%
I am pleased with these numbers and plan on continuing to cull LM under 95% and larger BG.

Again and again, if it was not for this forum, my fish population would not look like this. Thank you, all who have offered advice or suggestions. Whether that was to me directly, or to others with similar questions.

Forgot to add that the culled bass weighed in at just over 100lbs. I ate the culls over 9", cut off the tails of the smaller ones for an easy meal for grandma bass.


Edited by CMM (04/15/18 03:27 PM)
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#488626 - 04/15/18 04:33 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Thanks for the update. Your post serves as a good example of bass management and how to do it. Keep up the good work.
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#488631 - 04/15/18 05:24 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Nice of you to update CMM. Culling those bass should let the remaining ones grow and culling some bigger BG should reduce biomass to allow the remaining fish population room to grow. Sounds like you are on a plan to grow big bass.

So many old threads I have read just cut off at some point leaving the reader to wonder what ever became of the management/project. Always nice when members look up their old threads and update them.

For those new to the forum, I will remind them to use the "Watch List" to keep track of their threads or threads they want to reference at some future date. It can become very hard to relocate an old thread otherwise.
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#488636 - 04/15/18 05:49 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Bill and snrub, I hope my experience can help others, as others have helped me in the past. It also serves as an easy place for my own reference.

Yes, the goal focuses on lm. Healthy, but not necessarily trophy. I have a mix of fish with plenty of lm up to 20", a few over that and lots of bg action in the 8-10" range. just what I want as a fly fisher. Now to keep it that way.
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#488895 - 04/20/18 12:44 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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To answer CMM question. I have been tagging for about a year and yes all of the tagged bass I repeatedly catch have red meaty lesion at the insertion point.


Edited by Klinger715 (04/20/18 12:45 PM)
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#488904 - 04/20/18 03:40 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: Klinger715]
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Registered: 01/23/12
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Originally Posted By: Klinger715
To answer CMM question. I have been tagging for about a year and yes all of the tagged bass I repeatedly catch have red meaty lesion at the insertion point.


Is this a real concern. How can the sours be avoided. disinfect the tag or sire before or after inserting the tag?
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#488907 - 04/20/18 04:17 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Here is one of my tagged fish caught and showing the red sores...

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#488908 - 04/20/18 04:19 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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I've seen what CMM described around old fishing hook wounds too.

The needles in the tag guns are replaceable, so retiring them after multiple tags might be a good idea. I would think the insertion site would get more inflamed with older duller needles.

Oh CMM, great record keeping!!


Edited by FireIsHot (04/20/18 07:45 PM)
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#488909 - 04/20/18 04:32 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Registered: 08/12/16
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Loc: Iowa
Mine isn't the worlds sharpest but I did clean it with alcohol a few times after tagging fish. The next fish I tag will have the large tab cut off the end of the plastic tag so they don't collect FA like shown in the picture.

It is inevitable you're going to hit some veins/arteries while inserting tags but you would thing the tag area would scar over. I know the dnr here has moved to freeze tagging for bass and walleye and self piercing tags for sturgeon
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#488912 - 04/20/18 05:07 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: Matzilla]
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Registered: 01/23/12
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Originally Posted By: Matzilla
Here is one of my tagged fish caught and showing the red sores...



I can see one issue with this tag. looks like a clothes tag and the "FAT" part of it was left on the snag in the FA causing drag and irritation. If you clipped it off so it was just a straight slim tag it would not get caught up in the FA and cause drag on the tag and fish as it swims. Seems like that would help any way.
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#488914 - 04/20/18 05:42 PM Re: Tagging fish [Re: CMM]
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Loc: West Central MO
That is the part of the tag that has the number on it.. If cut off, a person would not have information on individual fish.
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