Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
MidwestCass, Bucyrus22B, Steve Clubb, macman59, jm96
18,483 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,944
Posts557,788
Members18,483
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,508
ewest 21,490
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,141
Who's Online Now
1 members (Boondoggle), 896 guests, and 222 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#484636 12/27/17 09:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 28
P
pdubdo Offline OP
OP Offline
P
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 28
Hi all,
Need to build an approx. 80 ft creek crossing. We current drive across it-it's shallow, limestone bottom, and we've had concrete mixers, pick-ups and semis drive across it no problem. But the decline/incline are a little steep for a minivan/regular car--we always scrape the front briefly on the gravel. Water runs 2-4 inches deep year-around. When it thunderstorms (southern Oklahoma) it'll rarely get 3-6 feet deep roaring rapids for about an hour, then go back down to a quiet couple of inches. Just need some help getting started: hire an engineer? call a bridge company? local construction company? Any suggestions? Thanks!

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 997
Likes: 57
T
Offline
T
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 997
Likes: 57
80’ bridge is bordering on some serious money.

Just throwing this out there but have you ever considered having a dozer cut the banks down for a more gradual approach?

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
R
Fingerling
Offline
Fingerling
R
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
Do a google search on railroad flat car bridge. People sell the bottom deck/frame from old railroad boxcars and flat cars to be used as bridges. 80 foot is a serious span.


[Linked Image]
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 99
D
Offline
D
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 99
Same here I have an old round railway car as a tin horn. You could use several if needed. If you need an 80 span bridge that is serious money. Probably buy another place for less cost.

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
S
Offline
S
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
One other possibility that has not been mentioned, is using old 1000 gallon anhydrous tanks (like farmers pull behind fertilizer applicators) as culverts. These tanks have to be hydrostatically tested every so many years and as lots of 1000 gallon tanks are getting old they are failing the test (most new replacements are 1500 or 2000 gallon tanks). Welding shops cut the end caps off and sell them for big culverts.

Put two or three of these down, concrete around them, and make a "low water bridge". During normal water flow the water flows through the culverts but in the occasional heavy rain it might flow both throuh and over for a few hours.

Still would not be cheap, but our local counties had some of this type bridge on low use roads for years.

Could do the same thing with regular culverts too. You have to do the job well enouh so they do not wash out.

For our farm crossings where we take tractors across creeks, we just put down appropriate size rock and make a gravel crossing. Need very large rocks down stream side to hold the rest, then build up with first large rocks then progressively smaller.

Last edited by snrub; 12/28/17 06:40 AM.

John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 887
Likes: 3
B
Offline
B
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 887
Likes: 3
I would do a low water crossing with culverts and concrete. There are a lot of example of them in timber areas around you.


1.8 acre pond with CNBG, RES, HSB, and LMB
Trophy Hunter feeder.
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 491
Likes: 13
M
Offline
M
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 491
Likes: 13
2nd that, most people around here do the same - buy old tankers and use them as culverts. The county even buys old rail tankers to form minimum maintenance road crossing culverts.


Mat Peirce
1.25 acre southeast Iowa pond
LMB, BG, YP, WE, HSB, RES, BCP
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 26
Offline
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 26
We put in a much smaller 30' or so bridge using prestressed steel beams and then covered it with pressure treated wood. The key was to place it on a type of a floating platform with mounting anchor plates in each corner. The plates had holes in the center and there was a deep seated rod embedded into the ground as part of the anchor plate system. This allowed the whole bridge to "lift or float as the water rise when the adjacent river flooded. That was the the good part. The bad part is that such flexibility wasn't cheap. I can't image what something 2 1/2 bigger than ours cost. Well actually I can, probable 1 1/2 times more!

Mr. Don
Cleveland, OH



NE Ohio, 2 ponds @ 1.3 @ 16' & .5 ac.@ 6'. Aeration x 6 bottom diffusors, 2 HVLP fountains, Honey Hole habitat x 35 pcs, FHM, SMB, WE, RBT, YP, BG, HBG, CC (in newer WE/SMB pond only) 2nd 1/2 ac pond LMB, CC, RSF, SMB, BCP, CBG, HBG, FHM.
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,311
Likes: 300
Moderator
Offline
Moderator
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,311
Likes: 300
Originally Posted By: Tbar
...Just throwing this out there but have you ever considered having a dozer cut the banks down for a more gradual approach?

Without seeing the property, this would get my vote. Blocking a naturally occurring creek can be dangerous, so I personally wouldn't go that route unless it was looked at by an engineer first.


AL


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Froggy Joe
Recent Posts
What’s the easiest way to get rid of leaves
by Bill Cody - 04/18/24 08:53 PM
How many channel cats in 1/5 acre pond?
by Dave Davidson1 - 04/18/24 08:41 PM
1/4 HP pond aerator pump
by esshup - 04/18/24 06:58 PM
Hi there quick question on going forward
by Joe7328 - 04/18/24 11:49 AM
Chestnut other trees for wildlife
by Augie - 04/18/24 10:57 AM
How to catch Hybrid Striper
by Augie - 04/18/24 10:39 AM
No feed HSB or CC small pond?
by esshup - 04/18/24 10:02 AM
Buying LMB
by esshup - 04/18/24 09:56 AM
Braggin Time
by Dave Davidson1 - 04/18/24 07:12 AM
How many LMB to remove?
by Foozle - 04/18/24 05:59 AM
Opportunistic Munchers
by Snipe - 04/17/24 11:25 PM
EURYHALINE POND UPDATE
by Fishingadventure - 04/17/24 10:48 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5