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Lots of folks love the .270...... I'm a .25-06 fan... for deer and hogs around here. It's done everything asked of it.. weatherby makes good stuff. Just make sure the gun fit to you is comfortable .

What is wrong with the .44? Other than range

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Just looking for some feedback from those who have shot the Vanguard.

I am not much of a target shooter. Just make sure I can reliably put a good shot at the distance I plan to hunt. I have put a lot of deer in the freezer with the 44 but limit myself to 100 yards. It will shoot 3" groups with LeverEvolution ammo at that range, but I want to see what I can do up to 200 yards (have a few places where this might be handy if a bruiser showed up). Also, pistol ammo just does not penetrate like rifle ammo. I have had 44 bullets not come out of a coyote although it lays them down fine. I would like more reliability with front shots on deer and flatter travel at distance.

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Kinda want your bullet to deposit energy inside critter..... you can reload the .44 and get a little better performance out of it than factory

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I do not reload. I only bought the 44 because that was what was allowed at the time in Indiana vs. shotguns.

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RAH, We have a 30-06 and 270. I like the 270 better for distance and knock down power. Still can take a moose with the 270 or even the 243. The 30-06 is cheaper for each shot.

If your looking at distance shots with knock down power the 270 will do the trick very nicely.

We can only hunt in our area with shot guns. We all have Mossbergs. The 2 boys have 12 gauge 500's one boy has 20 gauge 500 and I have a 930. We like the thumb safety. We all have rifled barrels and use Hornady SST in the 12 gauge and 3" federal sabots in the 20 gauge.

This is my youngest sons first buck. It had a wide 5point rack but had a nice thick body. He got him with his second shot on a full run.

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RAH I have an older 270 Vangard(60s or 70s). It shoots OK. Probably 1.25-1.5 MOA. Probably the worst of all my guns, but I have killed more deer with it than any gun I own. My son has a 270 Ruger 77 skeleton stock, that stock touches the barrel all the way down the stock. In theory it should shoot terrible, but shoots .5 MOA.

I think the 270 is the best round for speed/bullet weight/recoil there is. MOst animals I have shot with the 270 never take another step.


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Originally Posted By: DonoBBD
RAH, We have a 30-06 and 270. I like the 270 better for distance and knock down power. Still can take a moose with the 270 or even the 243. The 30-06 is cheaper for each shot.

If your looking at distance shots with knock down power the 270 will do the trick very nicely.

We can only hunt in our area with shot guns. We all have Mossbergs. The 2 boys have 12 gauge 500's one boy has 20 gauge 500 and I have a 930. We like the thumb safety. We all have rifled barrels and use Hornady SST in the 12 gauge and 3" federal sabots in the 20 gauge.

This is my youngest sons first buck. It had a wide 5point rack but had a nice thick body. He got him with his second shot on a full run.

Cheers Don.


Don, pass along congratulations to your son on his first buck, and excellent shot on a run!!!



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Thank you all for the feedback. I may end going with a Remington 700 mountain in 270. This seems like a tried and true gun with great accuracy. Anybody out there with that gun?

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Are you buying a new gun?


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Yes - Also looking at the tikka t3x

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Don't own one, but heard good things about Tikka.


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Can't go wrong with a 700 in whatever caliber you choose. I have a 700 classic in .243 and .25-06 and love them both . If toting or walking a lot the short actions are lot more tote friendly. 243,7mm-08, .260, .308 all good choices for deer

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Folks seem to think that Remington quality has gone down in recent years. Hard to find anything bad about the Tikka except recoil (physics on a light gun), but a LimbSaver recoil pad seems to be a fix if it bothers me. Cant be worse than a 12-gauge shooting slugs.

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Oops mine are over 20yrs old

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If I was getting a Remington 700, I would be looking for a pre 2005. QC has had some issues of late. I have 3 700s and they are GREAT guns, but all are older versions. The newset 700 SPS not nearly as happy with.


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Any Tikka owners out there?

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Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Can't go wrong with a 700 in whatever caliber you choose. I have a 700 classic in .243 and .25-06 and love them both . If toting or walking a lot the short actions are lot more tote friendly. 243,7mm-08, .260, .308 all good choices for deer


Concur on the older Rem. 700's...have them in .270 and 30-06...solid firearm.


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A neighbor shot the big buck we have been seeing for a month and a half.

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Good looking buck Chris. DId your neighbor age him?


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Not sure. I’d say he is 4.5-5.5. We had a lot of pictures of him. Happy for the neighbor but disappointed to say the least that we didn’t get him.

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D you have more pictures of him from different angles. Nice and wide and plenty of points!

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Yeah we have probably a 100 pictures of him. He was a regular since mid October. Only 1 picture during the day. The rest were at night. The cold weather we are having had the deer moving during the day.

Looks like a 12 point. 20.5” wide.

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Rah, I have a vanguard 243. It appears to be smooth and well made. It shoots well with a middle of the road scope


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Some question the safety on the Vanguard. What do you think?

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I own a Tikka T3 in 30-06. It is easily the most accurate rifle I own. You're right on adding the limbsaver recoil pad. Another thing I would recommend if you go with a Tikka is buying Warne permanent rings. They make them specifically for the Sako/Tikka dovetail on top of the receiver. They're a little pricey ($60) but they give the rifle a cleaner look than attaching a weaver rail and then rings to the rail. As for accuracy, I've shot three shot groups with that gun that can be completely covered with a penny. I don't reload for 30-06 and am only shooting Hornady American whitetail 150 grain ammunition. I can attempt to post some pictures when I get home.

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