Pond Boss Magazine
http://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Tiger4n, Chris22, WDD, GeorgeP, LD1
15032 Registered Users
Forum Stats
15032 Members
36 Forums
34781 Topics
475559 Posts

Max Online: 1039 @ 03/28/13 02:44 PM
Top Posters
esshup 24001
Cecil Baird1 20043
ewest 18946
Dave Davidson1 13088
Theo Gallus 12332
Who's Online
9 registered (ThePondDragon, sprkplug, DC70, Chris Steelman, jgr, scott69, wbuffetjr, John Fitzgerald, dreams of ponds), 166 Guests and 389 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Page 14 of 14 < 1 2 ... 12 13 14
Topic Options
#480714 - 10/04/17 09:41 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
Bill Cody Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 11983
Loc: Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH
What is the deepest the smaller pump can operate diffusers for 8-10hrs per day?
_________________________
Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management

Top
#480728 - 10/05/17 08:14 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
Bill, the way I have it set up currently is one dual station and one single in approximately 16' of water. These two stations are on either side of the deeper area that the quad station resides in. At 16' the small pump should make 4.5CFM.
Then I have two more singles in much shallower water. One single in 6-8' and the other single in 10-12'. I feel fairly confident the small pump can run these four stations/five discs for 8-10 hours per day. That would put me at .9 CFM per disc.

Just to reiterate, none of that accounts for the Koenders windmill running a single diffuser in ~8' and the American Eagle running a dual diffuser in ~8'.


Edited by wbuffetjr (10/05/17 08:16 AM)

Top
#480765 - 10/05/17 10:22 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
Bill Cody Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 11983
Loc: Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH
From my winter aeration testing so far, I think the dual and single stations in 16ft of water should be able to mix the 39F water down to the deepest 21ft depths. Cold winter water mixes much more easily compare to warmer water. A little daily mixing goes a long distance in winter water of 33F-39F. The additional single diffusers should be able to help further circulate and spread the water to surrounding areas. My opinion is if the solar performs correctly, the trout will be able to survive during this coming winter's ice cap.


Edited by Bill Cody (10/05/17 10:26 PM)
_________________________
Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management

Top
#480775 - 10/06/17 09:16 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: Bill Cody]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
From my winter aeration testing so far, I think the dual and single stations in 16ft of water should be able to mix the 39F water down to the deepest 21ft depths. Cold winter water mixes much more easily compare to warmer water. A little daily mixing goes a long distance in winter water of 33F-39F. The additional single diffusers should be able to help further circulate and spread the water to surrounding areas. My opinion is if the solar performs correctly, the trout will be able to survive during this coming winter's ice cap.


Sounds great! Thanks Bill! I will keep you updated as things progress. Going to try to get one last DO reading in November to see where we are at.

Top
#481639 - 10/26/17 08:23 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
Very interesting read

DO by Oregan State

Top
#481641 - 10/26/17 08:54 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
One more....

Another article made it sound like while my DO saturation numbers will be lower than DO saturation at sea level because of the elevation, that problem declines the deeper in the lake you measure. Does that sound true? Would increasing water pressure also increase my DO saturation number?

Interesting chart


Found it here
Trout and Salmon DO info

Top
#481687 - 10/26/17 11:01 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
esshup Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 24001
Loc: Grovertown, Indiana
I think so because it wouldn't turn to gas and bubble off with the higher pressures in the deeper water. That's my SWAG anyway! LOL

Oh, you CAN get over 15.0 mg/l in water if you are running pure O2 and a micropore diffuser in a tank.........
_________________________
www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Top
#481690 - 10/26/17 11:51 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
snrub Offline


Registered: 10/05/13
Posts: 4200
Loc: SE Kansas
Originally Posted By: wbuffetjr
One more....

Another article made it sound like while my DO saturation numbers will be lower than DO saturation at sea level because of the elevation, that problem declines the deeper in the lake you measure. Does that sound true? Would increasing water pressure also increase my DO saturation number?



Keep in mind only a very small portion of the DO comes from the surface area of the bubble interacting with the water. Most of the DO benefit from bottom diffuser aeration comes from moving lower water to the surface where the surface to air interface provides the vast majority of the infusion of DO.
_________________________
John

Top
#482227 - 11/05/17 08:14 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
Once again, can't say thank you enough to Pond Boss!

Highflyer rode out to my place to do some tweaks on the solar system and take some measurements. We now have remote access to the solar system and can see exactly how it is producing!!

He also got out on the lake and got some DO measurements. We have never had data from this late in the year! You ready for this???

We had 8.7 PPM of DO at the surface and 8.3 PPM at 20' deep! Water temp was 37.9F from top to bottom!!

Pretty sure we FINALLY knocked it out of the park!

Thanks again, Brian! I def owe you!


Edited by wbuffetjr (11/05/17 08:15 PM)

Top
#482230 - 11/05/17 08:46 PM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
Bill D. Offline


Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 5299
Loc: Boone County Illinois
That's great!

...and Kudos to Brian for dropping down to 10,000 to help you out! grin
_________________________

You'll never know what ya can catch unless you wet a line!

Top
#482305 - 11/07/17 08:18 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: Bill D.]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
Originally Posted By: Bill D.
That's great!

...and Kudos to Brian for dropping down to 10,000 to help you out! grin


Thanks Bill D! I agree, Kudos and BEER to Brian!!

Bill Cody - I am interested to hear what you think about these numbers.

Top
#482495 - 11/11/17 10:59 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
Pic of the cabin on 11.8.17
Lake frozen over two weeks earlier than last year. Buddy told me the diffusers are keeping a lot of water open.


Top
#482497 - 11/11/17 11:24 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
Bill Cody Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 11983
Loc: Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH
Numbers look good to me and this year's aeration modification & setup I think will perform well. Time will tell the rest of the story. Nice cabin that could serve as a great house for many.


Edited by Bill Cody (11/11/17 11:28 AM)
_________________________
Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management

Top
#482605 - 11/13/17 08:18 AM Re: 8 acre pond at 10,000' - lots of aeration ?s [Re: wbuffetjr]
wbuffetjr Online   content


Registered: 08/16/14
Posts: 666
Loc: in the mountains
Thanks Bill!

Now, how about THAT for a hole in the ice!



Edit: The large hole is made from three diffuser stations. A single on the right side of the hole, a dual on the left and the quad in the middle. I am assuming the quad station still running is what is keeping the holes connected and so large. The quad is only still running because my small pump died and we are still currently running the big pump. A replacement small pump is enroute and will hopefully be swapped in before there is too much snow to access the place in a vehicle. Once the switch is made the quad will be shut down.


Edited by wbuffetjr (11/13/17 08:41 AM)

Top
Page 14 of 14 < 1 2 ... 12 13 14

Today's Birthdays
Brandon Unrein, Larry McDavid, Ninmaxx
Recent Posts
A pond dedicated to Redear Sunfish
by ewest
11:49 AM
Best Source For Large Redears............
by ewest
11:39 AM
"policy" on old content resurrection?
by ewest
11:37 AM
Cost of threadfin
by TGW1
09:03 AM
Structure/Habitat question, 3/4 acre pond filling
by TGW1
08:59 AM
How I fish for BG
by snrub
01:37 AM
Never been much for fishing, but maybe someday....
by snrub
01:15 AM
algae and weed help needed
by scott69
11:37 PM
Raising water level
by RAH
09:32 PM
Hall of Fame 2017
by Pond Boss
01:19 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Sand Quarry
Cactus Blum Ranch proposed pond
Cactus Blum Ranch proposed pond
Cracked Valve Housing
Indoor Dwarf Sagittaria tank.
#MAFA

2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide