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#478995 - 08/25/17 10:38 AM What a difference a year makes.
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Registered: 09/10/16
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Loc: Central Illinois
Late Fall of 2016




August 2017





Hopefully will get it prepped and seeded this weekend. The pond has about 2 feet water already, so I'm thinking about putting in some FHM and thin shell crayfish after Labor day. Then in late spring some bluegill and redear sunfish. Then in the fall of 2018 going with a walleye, yellow perch, and/or hybrid striped bass mix. Maybe a few channel catfish t round out the mix. I think the pond will be around two acres surface area and 20 deep at the dam and average about 10 to 15 feet deep.

These are just preliminary plans as I plan to research the actual stocking plan this winter. For now, I'll just try to wait patiently for the pond to fill. Thanks to all the contributors who make this a wonderful resource.

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#479006 - 08/25/17 12:35 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Hoping an expert would chime in, but I would say the YP could go in with the BG and RES depending on how big the stocker YP are. Also, I don't know if you will have enough forage present by the time the panfish go in. You are one of the VERY few on this forum who has the luxury of being able to build a diverse forage base without any interference from existing fish. If I was in your shoes I would spent all of 2018 building forage. You could put 2-3" sunfish, and small perch stockers in later in 2018. No predators in 2018 which includes mature perch.

You then get every type of minnow you can get, golden shiners, other shiners, crayfish, shrimp, scuds, and let nature also add the dragonfly larvae, water boatmen etc. Fill the pond to capacity with forage. let the panfish grow up on the forage, then watch the forage balance play out.

My thoughts. Wow, what a beautiful pond and amazing setting.

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#479022 - 08/25/17 04:03 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Add FH now. Also add structure now.
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#479029 - 08/25/17 05:22 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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I plan to use hedge (osage orange or Bowood) trees for structure in the pond. They are rampant on the property and don't seem to deteriorate very quickly. Below the dry dam, I'm thinking of going from bank to bank in about a 30-foot section to create a "nursery area." then sink a few larger trees in select spots for fish congregators. I should have some time as my watershed is marginal currently. After the crops come out terraces will be installed to increase my water shed. I plan to stake down the trees in the shallower areas and use concrete to anchor larger trees this winter.


Edited by roundy (08/25/17 05:24 PM)

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#479059 - 08/26/17 08:01 AM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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I am no expert for sure but, 20 % cover is recommended from most everything I have read. That is a lot of trees etc for your sized pond. I would be adding it now, much easier than after it has water in it. And yep on the FHM's now. They could be reproducing already.
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#479064 - 08/26/17 11:58 AM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Types of cover are as important as %. You should design your structure plan to meet your goals as well as aid in fishing. Reproduction , protection/shelter, feeding are important matters to consider with types and placement of structure. See article in next PB mag.
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#479145 - 08/28/17 12:13 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Registered: 10/27/16
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Loc: Jefferson County Missouri
Congratulations!Looks great!Do you have anymore pictures?Mine was finished Saturday.Looks like you had a much nicer site to build at.It's a great feeling to finally have it in.Now all we have to do is worry about all the other stuff and hope they hold water.lol!What all kind of grass and other plants-seeds do you plan to plant?
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#479156 - 08/28/17 03:31 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Loc: Central Illinois
It does feel great to have the initial build done! Congrats on your project. The fellow who farms the acreage is going to lightly disc, lime, and fertilizer then plant a wheat-rye grass mixture this week. Then place some straw to hold moisture.

Next phase for the pond is making some swales or terraces to direct more water to the pond, one the crops come out this fall. The pond is a little short on watershed but the Conservation guy thought it would be ok with some terraces. The soil is great clay which is good for the pond project but will be a problem for a septic field in later projects.

I will post some more pictures after the weekend, I plan to visit and get a few things done.

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#479160 - 08/28/17 04:00 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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#479293 - 08/31/17 11:53 AM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Loc: Central Illinois
Pictures after ground fertilized and limed, ready for seeding.

http://imgur.com/a/ZD9JV

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#479296 - 08/31/17 12:38 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Looks great,I like the shape!
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#479299 - 08/31/17 01:43 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH
Very Nice ! Like your stocking plan as well, what about some Small Mouth Bass to add to the mix?
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#479320 - 08/31/17 06:49 PM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
roundy Offline


Registered: 09/10/16
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Loc: Central Illinois
Smallmouth are a definite possibility, hopefully the plan will come together this winter.

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#481381 - 10/20/17 11:55 AM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
roundy Offline


Registered: 09/10/16
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Loc: Central Illinois
Update:
The pond is progressing steadily but slowly. Grass is now growing all around nicely.



Added five pounds of FHM this morning and built first hedge brush pile in upper end where dry dam drains into. There seems to be a low flow spring on right-hand side of the picture.



in the area between brush pile and exit pipe of the dry dam I'm thinking of planting some eel grass on one side when water reaches appropriate level. Local AG office is coming out next week to design some waterways and terraces to divert more water to pond.



I'm also thinking about adding some Golden Shiners and crawdads this fall for forage. Then bluegill and Yellow perch next summer.

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#481746 - 10/28/17 09:41 AM Re: What a difference a year makes. [Re: roundy]
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Loc: Central Illinois
Added another hedge brush pile to the other finger in pond. Also added 5# of shiners. Looks like I'll have to wait till spring to get some crayfish to add. After doing this brush pile i think I'll add some more to the first one I did, the first one looks a little anemic and isn't as dense.


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