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It is unfortunate these days that many just want to attack others and tear down others rather than focus on the hard work of building something positive for their lives.
















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Agree.^^^^


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
I can accept that just fine, Zep. No offense to anyone intended. There are some things I don't even care to know, when there's nothing I can do about the situation. Just the way I live my life. Sometimes information is too much information for me personally. we can still have a good time discussing our ponds.


Absolutely John. That's probably why so many of us enjoy our ponds just to get away from it all. I am not one "glued to my phone" like so many people these days....I like to turn off everything too. Just as long as it's people like you, me, and Joe next door who are mainly deciding what we see I am totally on board, I just don't want some "Gvt Nanny" deciding that someone can't post on Facebook there are long lines at gas stations.


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I'm with you guys, I don't want that either. What I would like, and what I'm hoping is still possible, is for all of us to recognize that there is a time and a place. I'm referring to our society, not an individual or group when I say that. When I was a kid, my cousins and I would spend a lot of summer days at our grandparents place. As one might imagine, there was virtually no end to what might be dreamed up by way of entertainment by an energetic group of ten year olds, and a big group at that.

On more than one occasion I can remember Grandma walking out on the porch and admonishing us thusly: "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should!" That quality of self-governance is what I'm talking about in this thread, and actually in many of my posts as of late. None of us, myself included, want more outside interference in our lives or our ponds. But to keep unwanted interference out, do we not need to understand the possible ramifications of our own actions?

If I'm pouring a chemical into my pond, I should be aware of where that stuff is heading when it flows out my overflow. My actions may impact someone downstream. Doesn't mean I cant do it, just means that I need to give it some thought first. If we all start dumping whatever into our ponds without considering any possible consequences, then you better believe that big brother will eventually step into the picture..this is the scenario I envision when I see a social media driven panic that disrupts our lives in such an extraordinary manner.

Back to my childhood again. Remember when we were kids, and desperate to have our parents leave us at home by ourselves when they went somewhere that we didn't want to go? I don't know about you guys, but I remember the speech about "show us you can be trusted, and we'll start trusting you to be left alone". It was about me showing them I could act responsibly. That's what I think is diminishing in our society today, the awareness that taking personal responsibility includes nearly all aspects of our lives, even things we take for granted.

Zep, I'm not singling you out, I promise. I see where it looks that way, but I don't know how to illustrate my point without using your thread. Once again I'm sorry if it comes across as a personal attack, as that is most certainly not my intent.

Anyway, ran across this which touches on what I'm trying to say.

https://patch.com/texas/downtownaustin/h...-gasoline-texas


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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Plenty of gasoline but prices have risen over $.50 per gallon


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

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Plenty of price but no fuel! This is crazy

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Well Harvey has made it to Ontario Canada last night. Just light rain but made it here.


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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
Plenty of gasoline but prices have risen over $.50 per gallon


Yes Dave...kind of crazy, and actually I think I may have declared it was "over" too soon. The super chaos is mostly over from my personal observations, but I saw a few stations this morning still with lines and many stations "roped off" with yellow tape with either no gas or only 4 pumps out 12 pumps working. I'm not sure if the "less chaos" is because of more fuel available, the weekend and everyone mostly staying home, or other factors. I certainly hope the long line chaos does not creep back when everyone has to go back to work after the holiday. Being in the transportation business last week was scary.


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I hate it when "Big Oil" is piled on for gas price increases incurred during disasters.

Gasoline is a commodity traded on the stock exchange just like oil. When 20% of the US refining went off line as well as some pipelines that created market conditions that caused some of the price increase.

http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/gas.aspx?timeframe=1m

Most gas stations are independently owned/franchises. It is my opinion that they are responsible for much of the increase you are seeing.

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Originally Posted By: DonoBBD
Well Harvey has made it to Ontario Canada last night. Just light rain but made it here.

Same here in West Virginia. It resulted in a beautiful day today once the clouds were cleared out by a cold front that came in.

Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
Plenty of gasoline but prices have risen over $.50 per gallon

Our prices have gone up somewhat. I just filled up about an hour ago. $2.449. Not too bad -- about $0.25/gallon increase since a week ago. We had some concerns, but we shouldn't get hit too hard here. Most of our fuel comes via Colonial Pipeline from Louisiana and SE Florida. On Friday they were saying that our regional tank farms had enough to get us through tomorrow (Monday). Louisiana didn't have to shut their input to the pipeline. They are saying that the Galveston/Houston area will be back in operation in the next couple of days.

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I hate it when "Big Oil" is piled on for gas price increases incurred during disasters.

We really haven't heard much of that kind of stuff around here. I've only overheard it by the serious and uneducated rednecks in Walmart lines and at the gas stations.



Mostly what I've heard in person and on local media has been what people are doing here and across the nation to help. I talked to a few friends this afternoon and all of them said that their churches had taken up special collections and were planning fund raisers. One of my friends in South Carolina, who I've worked closely with through Habitat for Humanity, Re-Store, and other groups in many other volunteer activities, wanted to know if I was ready to load up my "tool shed trailer".

In the last 40 years I've heard and confronted the many naysayers and negative people who complain using their inexperienced disaster personal response "experience" by jamming their strong opinions on anyone within earshot, saying that nothing is being done correctly by anyone. It is always "they" should have done it differently.

When on-site, I've also dealt with the "grifters". They show up like dung beetles and maggots at disasters.

Fortunately, we have already seen the many volunteers like the "Cajun Navy", and so many more. They are asking for nothing more than directing them into the areas where help is needed.

There are already one heck of a lot of people from all over the US, Mexico, and Canada who are volunteering, and who ask for nothing more than directions on what needs to be done. Many of the coordinators are volunteers who take a lot of hammering. Most volunteers bring nearly everything with them. They call back home to work with coordinators in their area who arrange for donations like plywood, drywall, medications, gift cards to big box stores, and so much more.

Get involved. Get registered in Texas and Louisiana. Donate what you can -- just don't donate your negative help, hate, and comments.


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Way to go Sheriff Troy Nehls – Fort Bend County, Texas.

Absolutely no tolerance for looters taking advantage of the victims of Hurricane Harvey.

Sheriff Troy Nehls–Fort Bend County, Texas is warning would-be looters to rethink entering his county. The sheriff says his residents are armed and would-be looters might end up getting hauled to the morgue in a body bag.



http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/09/03/texas-sheriff-looters-try-leave-county-bag/


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Muy fuerte'.


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