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Anybody know why the plants around the perimeter of the pond are dying off? It was growing well this spring and now appears to be dying off leaving the yoy without cover.
Water level is down a little but not much.

AKA waterthread Pondweed

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Natural senescence after fruit / seeds made. Much like you see with field corn and soybeans. Several pond weeds die back this time of year.

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Well Pat, my guess is cause you're using such ludicrous (for those of you with a limited vocabulary as I have...causing laughter because absured or ridiculous). I know you Texans have big everythings but please keep it simple for those of us that are simple.
Thanks in advance, a should be moderator.

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Simple Bob u are so right .... good thing we have huge sense of humor also.
So Bob take a shot at answering my query

Good that you are picking again... I missed that

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No way my words too big.

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Centrarchid, thank you.
Mr Pat, your query is too queer for me. I will have to defer your ? to Sheldon. Perhaps Essup will chime in. Beem us in Scotty!!
PS I haven't quit pickin just haven't posted all my discontent of you and Bill D.


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I agree with Centrarchid. Numerous Potomogeton pond weeds after developing mature seeds will die back. One very good example is curly leaf pondweed.

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Thanks guys
Thought something was going south. Need some other plant to move in to hide the baby BG or they are toast

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Sago pond weed persists longer here. I would place some cedar trees in shallow to form clumps. I would make L-shaped clumps to provide protection from more angles. Some rushes might be fun to try. At least one hear can handle water a foot deep but establishing it can be a challenge. Some water willows work well.

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O.K. Mr. Bob-O, here's your chime.



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Dang Scott ya had me more confused that Pat did. Finally figured it out.


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Pat, here's just a few personal observations of PD (It's too long and hard to spell).

It's one of those plants that does have some advantages, and fry cover is one of the main ones. It comes up earlier than my A Pondweed, and provides cover earlier in the year. The only real problem with it, is the potential for uncontrolled spreading. After having initially found it 3 years ago, it now almost completely surrounds my big pond. I've also found it in an approximately 1 acre 3-4' flat that started getting popups all over it. That in and of itself isn't a bad thing, but once it's treated, it really doesn't die back. The dead plant just stays there, and gets algae covered. It reminds me of an upside down snow cone. Fishing becomes problematic at best, and that area was treated and drug primarily for recreational purposes.

I personally haven't seen it out compete any other shoreline plants like water primrose, lilies, reeds, or A Pondweed. It also seems to have less spread then they do, but it obviously can reestablish itself in deeper water if the clarity is there.

I'm not removing it because it does fill a niche, but I am keeping an eye on it.


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Al I was hoping that I had American Pondweed instead of PD Pondweed . Now there is nothing.

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Pat, would you know what your afternoon water temps are? Also, when PD died, did the subsurface stems stay up, or sink?

I'm more curious than anything else. Mine has re-exploded in just the last week or two, while weather wise we've stayed in the 80"s. Nights have been in the low 70's.


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Remove plants that are utilizing the nutrients in the pond, something else will start growing unless the nutrient problem (if you want to call it that) is addressed.


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Have not cked the water temps ours has been bout the same as your temps. The plants have basically just imploded. Hardly any left at all, few stems

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I bet the tubers / roost system is still in place. If you were to mess around in mud you will also find lots of seeds that will be peaking interest of dabbling ducks.

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Sorry about that Pat, I know it's got to be a bummer. I guess I'm trying to figure out what part this plant plays for pond cover. Our day lengths are the same, but you and I are currently getting 2 very different results. Other than water temp, I just don't know how that happens. Bigger brains than mine will have to figure it out.


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Yeah Al this the first year that we've seen baby BG in the weeds now the weeds are almost gone leaving no hiding places ... should fatten up the bass.... maybe the BCP will scarf up a few.


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