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#477415 - 08/01/17 01:10 PM Help
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Registered: 06/25/17
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Loc: Middle ga
I have recently purchased a 3 1/2 acre pond built in 1976. I noticed right from
The start that my overflow constantly had a discharge coming from the pipe not a huge stream of water but enough to worry me. Over the last three weeks my pond has dropped almost three feet. This is not a spring fed pond so no water is coming in to supply the amount going out. I can not locate the overflow pipe inside the pond normalkynthey stick up out of the water. I'm worried the pipe has broken off below the surface of the water and is just partially clogged. Any advice on how to plug the existing discharge in before I loose my pond or any advise on finding the old overflow pipe

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#477421 - 08/01/17 02:43 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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Registered: 06/04/15
Posts: 218
Loc: Grinnell, IA
There are some actual pond builder experts on this forum, so I'm sure one of them will chime in shortly. But in the meantime, be very cautious about looking around (wading or swimming) for the outflow pipe. But even if it's partially blocked, the amount of suction it will be pulling could easily trap or kill a person caught in it's pull. I'd keep the kids and dog away too.
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#477423 - 08/01/17 03:56 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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Do you know how the drain is plumbed? Your descriotion lacks key details I need to assess safety if you are going to mess with the plumbing.

Internal standpipe that is submerged or tilted and is also plug by something like a turtle?

Pipe with a plug held in place by suction?

Pipe with valve inside levee?

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#477431 - 08/01/17 05:12 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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The pipe was an internal standup pipe that has obviously rusted in half under the water. I have waded around and can not find this pipe anywhere near the dam out to about 6 foot fr the dam. It is a 12 inch corrugated pipe.

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#477434 - 08/01/17 06:37 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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Without seeing it, the most likely problem is pipe broke and someone covered the end with something that is not providing a good seal. Previous owner could not provide insight to problem?

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#477435 - 08/01/17 06:38 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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You might be able to obstruct other end with a metal valve. Up here that is iffy because pipe would freeze.

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#477438 - 08/01/17 07:49 PM Re: Help [Re: Centrarchid]
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Have you thought about calling a plumbing outfit that has a camera that can go inside of pipes to take a look?

The only why that I know of plugging it is to pump in cement from the outlet side to completely fill the pipe.

Like was said, stay away from the side that is in the pond. the suction can be strong enough to keep your body pinned to the pipe...... At the very least you will have a bad hematoma if you can get yourself free, at the worst you will be pinned there by the suction until the pond drains down. Whether you will be alive or dead by that time is unknown. That end of the discharge pipe is nothing to be messing with, especially when you don't know where it is.
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#477439 - 08/01/17 08:39 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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Registered: 06/25/17
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Loc: Middle ga
Owner could not provide any info. Pipe scares me guy got killed here last summer doing same thing. I worry by plugging pipe on discharge side I could risk pipe bursting blowing out the dam

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#477441 - 08/01/17 09:16 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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I would get an "aqua view" or "vexilar" or other brand of underwater camera. These cameras are used mostly for ice fishing but you can take it out on a small boat. You will be able to locate the pipe with it and see whats going on without risking your safety. I use my camera all the time for looking at my out flow pipe, checking fish structure or just to see where the fish are hanging out.

I would not attempt any fix until you know what your dealing with. Don't go in the water until you know where the pipe is, then mark it with a jug on a rope with a weight so you know where it is. When you know whats going on come back and the experts here will give you ideas on how to fix it.

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#477444 - 08/01/17 09:47 PM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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Another way to find pipe that is low tech uses a 2 x 4 you poke around with. If you have the strength, then rebar would also work. A depth finder also make the pipe visible. If visibility better than 4' then I would go down with a snorkel. I have messed around such a lot and know the dangers.

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#477451 - 08/02/17 12:38 AM Re: Help [Re: Centrarchid]
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Originally Posted By: Centrarchid
Another way to find pipe that is low tech uses a 2 x 4 you poke around with. If you have the strength, then rebar would also work. A depth finder also make the pipe visible. If visibility better than 4' then I would go down with a snorkel. I have messed around such a lot and know the dangers.


Good idea on poking around! I forgot that I have a 4' or 5' long stainless steel 1/4" dia. rod with a 5/16" bearing welded on the bottom end, and a 12" long or so handle welded to the top. Easy to push into the ground when looking for tiles or septic leach fields. The ball bearing makes it a lot easier to pull it out of the ground - the dirt doesn't grab onto the rod.
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#478280 - 08/15/17 10:35 AM Re: Help [Re: Top 25]
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The pond should eventually drain down to the level of, or just below the level of, the actual leak.

If the leak is too slow, then maybe you want to pump out some water until you can actually safely access the stand pipe/drain pipe.
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