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#349666 - 09/03/13 06:48 PM How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn?
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I am purchasing 100 1-2" YP for my pond in the next few weeks will they grow enough to spawn in the spring? Also if i stock SMB fingerlings will they eat the YP before they get big enough to reproduce?

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#349667 - 09/03/13 07:05 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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It depends on how big the fingerling SMB are if they will eat 1" long YP. If the SMB are 2" then the majority of the 1"-2" perch should survive. Buy some FHM and they will be eaten mostly before the 1" perch. SMB that are 3" long could eat a 1"-1.25" YP. SMB of 3.5"-4" could eat quite a few of the 1"-1.5" YP.
Well fed YP from the 2013 hatch should be 2.5" to 6" long in early Sept. Those YP 2.0"-2.5" are somewhat stunted and those less than 2" were too crowded in the growing pond and had food shortages and were definitely not eating pelleted food or they would be 3"-6.5"long. 1"-2" YP in the fall will not spawn the next spring. Smallest mature YP that I've seen are 3.7"female and 3" male. Check back with the fish farm and see if they have 3"-4" or 3"-5". If so, they graded/sorted the perch and 1"-2" are mostly males and the 3"-4" are mostly females.


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#349670 - 09/03/13 07:26 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Thanks Bill do you know much about Zetts fish farm?

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#349671 - 09/03/13 07:28 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Ok - I have a year of FHM and GSH in my 1-acre pond. Any harm in adding a dozen RES, YP, and SMB? Most of the fish that I see in the shallows are tiny.

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#349678 - 09/03/13 08:12 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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I stocked 2 to 3 inch YP last fall, and they did not spawn this spring. They are much larger now, and should spawn next spring. I have placed some mostly sunken sumac trees for them to work with in hopes of increasing spawn success.
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#349683 - 09/03/13 08:47 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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KSBass - IMO I would get my YP from a more local source and preferably where they were fish pellet trained. Those YP of this year will be 3"-6" long some even 7". I think YP of 1" -2" are stunted individuals from trying to grow too many in too small of a pond -overcrowded.

RAH - You should have lots of minnows to feed the sportfish you mentioned. The smallest minnows will tend to be closest to shore. The first hatched group will be larger probably 1.5"-2" long. A baited fish trap should give you a good idea of the size ranges of the minnows. You could have had an over production of minnows and food became limiting unless you were feeding crushed fish pellets. IMO Larger juvenile sportfish can be stocked.


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#349685 - 09/03/13 08:53 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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"preferably where they were fish pellet trained"

Bill, I have never heard of pellet trained perch. Is this most certainly true?
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#349687 - 09/03/13 09:01 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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YP will readily eat fish pellets but it takes some training similar to producing pellet trained largemouth. There are fish farms that specialize in growing pellet trained perch. There is a good number of places in WI that have pellet trained perch. Workers at Univ of WI were some of the pioneers of developing commercially grown pellet eating yellow perch. Those interested in commercially raising perch want pellet trained perch so growth is fast to the market size of 8". YP normally feed close to the bottom so it takes a fair amount of coaching or training to get them to rise to the surface for floating pellets. Offspring of perch that have been domesticated for many years learn quickly to eat fish pellets.

I buy only pellet trained perch. They can easily be 9"-11" at two years old and 10"-13" at 3 yrs old.


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#349699 - 09/03/13 09:37 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Bill Cody my local guy doesn't have any and said that zetts fish hatchery is where he suggested because they next day air fish. My main reason for the YP is another forage base for my SMB.

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#349704 - 09/03/13 09:59 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Did you check the other references for YP suggested by TJ57 & me or others in your other thread? I would use Zetts as a very last resort. Some here have found the WVA Zetts better than the PA Zetts. There is an Ohio pellet trained perch raiser that has next day air shipped YP to China. PM me for info to see if he will ship to you in KS.
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=27332&Number=349245#Post349245


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#349706 - 09/03/13 10:07 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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I called the guy that you suggested he was real close but he said he just got rid of all the YP he had and to call Zetts fish farm. The have alot of fingerling fish and the yp i can get from 1-2" up to 7 to 9". I just want some in my pond. Im willing to wait to throw in the small bass till next fall.

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#349707 - 09/03/13 10:08 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Is there any other fish hatchery that will ship YP next day air?

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#349708 - 09/03/13 10:09 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Did you check with TJ57? Read my edit above for an OH grower with a lot better YP. IMO - Haste makes waste.


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#349710 - 09/03/13 10:14 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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I emailed him tonite hopefully he will get back with me.

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#349712 - 09/03/13 10:19 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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You have time to get perch. They can be sourced until Nov1 and from late March till May. If you can get some 4"-6.5" long before Apr 10 they will spawn and you will have small perch for next year's stocking of SMB. I prefer, but not necessary to have the YP spawn once before adding bass or walleye.


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#349714 - 09/03/13 10:24 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Ok thanks. I appreciate you helping me out with the SMB and YP here in kansas its just LMB,BG,CC, and crappie. Im just loving all the information and super excited to have a pond with these different species of fish. I just want to do my homework and get all the info i can. SO MUCH APPRECIATED TO YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE! AWESOME WEBSITE

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#349715 - 09/03/13 10:31 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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It is best to air ship fish in cool weather of late Sept, October, March and April. You can always shift the pond to other fish of LMB, BG, CC and BCP if you don't like how the smallies and perch are performing buy just adding LMB&BG or others. Although I have never had anyone do that. They seem to really like the SMB-YP or HSB-YP.


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#349717 - 09/03/13 10:33 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Yes I agree 100 percent. Zetts is the only hatchery that i have found so far that does air ship YP.

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#349720 - 09/03/13 10:35 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Take a day trip or short weekend trip and drive a few hundred miles to get some perch.
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#349733 - 09/04/13 12:48 AM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: Bill Cody]
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My personal choice would to use the people that Bill suggested. He knows his YP, and the suppliers of them. Putting in fish that haven't had such a great start in life will usually show up later on in life by not growing to their full potential.
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#349807 - 09/04/13 12:47 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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I have done all the things Bill has mentioned to me to start and manage my perch pond. The best advice was the pellet trained perch for the stockers. They lay off the minnows to help get them started and give them a head start on the perch.

We stocked 400 4-6" perch in November of last year and this spring we had a spawn all be it small only about 100 yearling made it. Pellet trained perch has allowed the minnows population go from 10,000 to well over 100,000+ so many we can't count. This is good because the 400 are well over 7"s now and all will spawn this coming spring.

We are going to try to fall fish out 20-30 so the spring spawn is some what smaller. With any luck the young perch will grow as well as this years young and still pull off a great minnow spawn again 2014.

If these guys say "it is best that you......" it really is best that you do. I can't imagine how much trying and testing this site has saved me.

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#349817 - 09/04/13 01:44 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Thanks guys I think im going to wait till early spring and find some larger ones that are pellet trained and hopefully spawn in the same year. That would also give my FHM and GSH more time to spawn.

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#473169 - 06/01/17 05:28 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Bill C and other YP pros,

I am seeing 2.5 to 3 inch YP coming to feed in the evengs when I toss pellets. Could these be from this year's spawn?

Thanks,

Bill D.
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#473318 - 06/03/17 09:31 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Bump...Come on guys! How big are YP at 2+ months age in a fertile pond?
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#473373 - 06/04/17 07:37 PM Re: How fast do yellow perch grow and spawn? [Re: KSBASS]
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Closing the loop...FWIW...I've been trying to research this question on my own without much luck. If there are YP average growth vs time charts or data out there I can't find it. My bride did catch one of the littlest guys this morning and it actually measured bigger than my guesstimate (2.5 to 3) and was 4 inches. IMO then the answer to my own question is....we are probably seeing last year's smaller recruits coming to get a free meal.
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