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#469852 - 04/18/17 03:59 PM Optimal feed
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Registered: 03/04/16
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Loc: North Carolina
I'm not affiliated with Optimal feed but I thought I would pass on that I have really liked it. We're feeding the Starter feed #3 in a new lake project and the Blue Gill Jr in existing ponds. They have turned on to the Bluegill Jr quickly despite its different appearance. Throws well out of our Texas Hunter feeders as well.

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#469871 - 04/18/17 10:07 PM Re: Optimal feed [Re: boltesc]
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It's a good feed. I like it.
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#469885 - 04/19/17 07:33 AM Re: Optimal feed [Re: boltesc]
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Registered: 10/30/13
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I think I'm on the other end of the scale. I believe I may stop feeding it. Last week I fished the pond for a few hours. I have primarily a YP and SMB pond. I added a few HBG a year and a half ago, so that the grandkids would have something to catch in the middle of the summer days. Last week I was only catching HBG after the sun had been up for a while. The HBG are doing very well, for not having been in the pond all that long.
My problem is, the SMB and the YP haven't grown much at all. I'm trying to keep as many HBG as I can, but they might be out reproducing the YP and for sure the SMB. Maybe I'll go back to Purina. I just don't remember which AM size to go with.
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#469900 - 04/19/17 12:38 PM Re: Optimal feed [Re: SetterGuy]
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Switching foods probably won't help. If the HBG are eating all the food before the YP/SMB see it, then what? If you are saying that the HBG won't like to eat the other brand of food, what will you do if the YP/SMB don't eat it either?

Either feed more so the HBG get their fill and there is food left over for the other fish, or feed a larger pellet size (like Optimal Bass food. I don't know if a larger pellet will help, but I know in my pond the bass don't want to eat a smaller pellet, they will eat a clump of small pellets, but not an individual one.

I don't "see" a YP eating the food, but I know they are by the splash they make at the surface of the pond. They rocket up from down deep, start their turn, grab a pellet and rocket back down.
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#469916 - 04/19/17 05:35 PM Re: Optimal feed [Re: boltesc]
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The only way people would take my Optimal away would be over my cold, dead body......... smile

















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#469953 - 04/20/17 07:40 AM Re: Optimal feed [Re: esshup]
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Registered: 10/30/13
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Loc: NE Missouri
Originally Posted By: esshup
Switching foods probably won't help. If the HBG are eating all the food before the YP/SMB see it, then what? If you are saying that the HBG won't like to eat the other brand of food, what will you do if the YP/SMB don't eat it either?

Either feed more so the HBG get their fill and there is food left over for the other fish, or feed a larger pellet size (like Optimal Bass food. I don't know if a larger pellet will help, but I know in my pond the bass don't want to eat a smaller pellet, they will eat a clump of small pellets, but not an individual one.

I don't "see" a YP eating the food, but I know they are by the splash they make at the surface of the pond. They rocket up from down deep, start their turn, grab a pellet and rocket back down.


Makes sense Scott. Maybe I need to run the feeder longer. I'll also keep removing the HBG. Looks like it was a mistake (for me) to add them. I was thinking possibly some of the other feed might sink, giving the YP a better chance of getting some.
FYI, I changed from 6 seconds, twice a day, to 10 seconds. The feed still disappears in less than a minute.
Thanks
Jeff


Edited by SetterGuy (04/20/17 07:59 AM)
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#469965 - 04/20/17 09:54 AM Re: Optimal feed [Re: boltesc]
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Registered: 05/07/13
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Loc: West Michigan
your fish are starving! Feed them! Does the timer not go past 10 sec? How about 30 sec?

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#469968 - 04/20/17 10:23 AM Re: Optimal feed [Re: canyoncreek]
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Jeff. try 20 seconds the next time you are out there. The HBG might be hogging all the pellets and keeping the YP away from the food because they might be more aggressive. If the food still disappears in the same amount of time, immediately do a test throw for 10 seconds. If it still disappears just as fast, do another 10 second test throw. Keep repeating until at some point you will see a decreased feeding response. Then set the next scheduled feeding event for that length of throw time. Keep it up for a week and see if you have YP coming to the feed then.

I have no problem with getting the YP to come up to the surface for feed, but I found out that in my pond, feeding them during low light (within an hour of sunrise/sunset) had the best feeding response. Throw feed out at high noon and you'd wonder where all the fish went.

Now, maybe if I were to have a high noon feeding time, they might get used to it. I don't know.
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#470007 - 04/20/17 09:32 PM Re: Optimal feed [Re: boltesc]
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Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 871
Loc: NE Missouri
I always feed at sunup and sundown. The YP I was feeding last year were all full of Optima when I cleaned them. It wasn't that long ago that 6 seconds left food floating for too long, and it floated against the bank. I still get some if the wind is right. The FHM work on the food against the shore. I'll start adding 10 second increments, and see when it slows down. The HBG have exploded in size and weight. That's exactly what Optima is supposed to do. I'm not sure how much recruitment I've had with the HBG. I don't want very many, as I really prefer to eat the YP.

I don't think any of my fish are starving. There's still FHM and GSH in fair #s in the pond. Three big sunken cedar trees out where the feeder sends the feed. Timer goes to a minute..

I'll be back up next week, and see how many seconds I have to add.
Thx


Edited by SetterGuy (04/20/17 09:45 PM)
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2 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM, HBG, SMB, and HSB..
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.
I subscribe..

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