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farmallsc #466420 03/11/17 02:49 PM
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Sakes alive did we get a bucket of rain last night!!! I had my petal boat pulled way up on the bank and the water rose and my boat is floating. It sure did muddy the water too! My SIL says we got about 5" of rain, I don't doubt it, but I haven't been over to check the gauge. I know my pond came up several feet.



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That ought to make that 4' deep water into 7'.

That should also help with the FA. Makes more of the water deeper so sun does not penetrate to the bottom over as much of the pond, and the dilution of the concentrated nutrients will
make the overall water quality better and not as nutrient rich per gallon.

Your fish ought to really thrive now.

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Originally Posted By: snrub
That ought to make that 4' deep water into 7'.

That should also help with the FA. Makes more of the water deeper so sun does not penetrate to the bottom over as much of the pond, and the dilution of the concentrated nutrients will
make the overall water quality better and not as nutrient rich per gallon.

Your fish ought to really thrive now.



It's coming another gullywasher tonight, so this should really fill up the pond. Once it's over, I'll get new depth measurements. I figure your about right just from what I saw today. I wasn't able to feed today because it was so muddy and it looks like it may be the same tomorrow.



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Enjoy it. Summer is coming.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

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You know, I've been thinking(that's usually pretty dangerous.) You know, when I measured the size of my pond, I stepped off from waters edge to waters edge, not considering it would fluctuate. I may have underestimated its size. I guess it's better to underestimate than overestimate



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Originally Posted By: farmallsc
You know, I've been thinking(that's usually pretty dangerous.) You know, when I measured the size of my pond, I stepped off from waters edge to waters edge, not considering it would fluctuate. I may have underestimated its size. I guess it's better to underestimate than overestimate


FWIW....My pond is a watertable pond and fluctuates several feet every year. It ranges in size from .35 to .65 acres. The low pool is always in the hottest months when DO and water quality can be the biggest concern. Knowing this, I stocked and now manage the pond like it is .35 acres year round to be on the conservative side.

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My babies finally started eating again today. The last rain sure did muddy my water, but it's starting to clear up a bit.



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Caught a bunch of June bugs and have been feeding my fish. I didn't think they would be able to swallow them, but I be darned they attacked them like piranha



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please, let us in on the best way to catch june bugs or japanese beetles? getting rid of them and feeding the fish at the same time sounds like a win/win for all of us!

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Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
please, let us in on the best way to catch june bugs or japanese beetles? getting rid of them and feeding the fish at the same time sounds like a win/win for all of us!


To be honest, I didn't setbout to catch them. They just happened to be there and I swept them up. Outside my RV, we have one of those plastic mats that's about 12' long and 8' wide. The June bugs seem to congregate there and I grab them. I was going to smash them up with some cornmeal, but wife put an end to that idea real quick. grin

If you could've heard the conversation, you'd still be laughing.

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Catfish are feeding! My wife found her camera and came with me down to the pond. Rain/wind has taken care of FA and she was able to get some good pictures!!!

Yea!!!!!

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Looks like you have quite a herd there! Well done! What else is in the pics besides CC?


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Lax nice liking fish!
All I see is BG

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Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Looks like you have quite a herd there! Well done! What else is in the pics besides CC?


There are some OTS CNBG in amongst them, but it looks like they are getting pushed around at feeding time. Those CC are chow hounds. The CC may have been coming to feed all this time and I just wasn't able to see. I'm feeding about 6 to 7 cups a day spread out over the day at morning, noon and late afternoon. I bet the CC is what's been gobbling up those June bugs I've been chunking in there.


Oh yeah, there are some RES in there, but I don't know if they are coming up to feed. All my research says probably not.




I'll tell you what I find amazing. One day you go out to the pond and it looks completely taken over with FA. The next day you get some breezy conditions or a rain and presto your pond looks crystal clear.



Oh yes, one more thing. New depth taken from several places in the middle and it ranges from 6'2" to 6' 11"

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Talked over my plan with Todd today. Since I don't have Bass, his recommendation is 5 to 10# of Tilapia.

That will be lots easier on the pocket book.


I forgot to ask him if they needed anything special for breeding habitat. Anybody know?

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Just water !
They are easy to care for

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If you're following along with some of my posts, I've had a twist of events. It appears I had some GSF in my pond when I stocked it last month. This should make things interesting.



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I thought so. Look at the mouth size, the fin tipping, and the color on an opercular. Some GSF influence definitely.


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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You need to catch a couple of those and take pictures out of the water. They look kind of wide body like GSF. That may just be the water magnification though. Sprkplug is right on the opercular tab looking GSFishy.

They also look hungry. That is the way my fish come up and stare at me wanting fed. laugh


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Here ya go. What you think?

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Originally Posted By: farmallsc
Here ya go. What you think?


Green Sunfish. Certain.

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No doubt about those. You have yourself some potential trophy GSF there. Just keep feeding them.

That first picture is classic. Green bars on the cheeks, big mouth, coloration, more fusiform shape than a BG, opercular tab border.

Here is a thread you can read all about my learning curve on GSF and I think there is a link within of another persons experience.
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Edit: that first picture the opercular tab does not show up that well because the fish has his gills flared so the border is out away from the body. I first noticed this when taking pictures of RES. In person I would see the bright red or orange border. Yet when I took a picture of the fish, if it had the tab flared out, it did not show up so much. Your second picture you can see the translucent orange border on the ear flap (opercular tab).

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Thanks John and Snrub!


Looks like I wasted my money on the stocking of fish. A bunch of them probably got ate. I would have bet my gizzard there were no fish in there. I should have bought a sack of feed before stocking. Oh well. Alls well that ends well.


I think Todd has some big OTS CNBG, I may get a few and see if they will eventually take over the pond.


A little disappointed, but not overly so. In hindsight I would have just bought bigger OTS CNBG.

I don't know about putting Bass in. Don't get me wrong, I like Bass. I'm just not sure what to do other than Feed, Fish and watch what it becomes.

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Wife stumbled upon this fellow.


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He will be-a- singing before to long. Nice

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