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Got 7 pics of this one walking and sitting in front of the camera and then....



45 seconds later got this one....

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It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

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If we had these, walking to and from the deer stand with a bow in the dark would be a bit more exciting...

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So, I am thinking a pair of Mt Lyons? I was not to pleased when I found tracks from a Mt lion in one of my wildlife food plots a couple of yrs back. If u continue to have then on camera, it might be time to do a cat hunt. I understand the meat is white and pretty good eating. I bow hunt mostly, but in this situation I would have to pull out the 45/70 saddle gun. Mt lions kill several people every year here in the US, Southern California is where most are attacked from what I have read. Like RAH said, I would not want to walk up on one on a morning elk bow hunt.

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IMO it is definitely two of them. One looks younger to me for sure. I think it is a mother and a ~1.5 year old cub.

We have an issue with them up there. Virtually every study I have ever read says they will take 50 to 70 deer per year. If that is correct then I am looking at 100 deer gone per year on the low end right there. That is discouraging.

I have had multiple run ins with lions while bow hunting out there. One time I had a huge tom come in and almost jump on my elk decoy.

We have been talking about trying to locate a cat hunter to come in do their thing.

I've also got some bear pics I need to post. Got some HUGE bears.

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Here are a couple bear and lion pics from this past season









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Here is a good one from this year of a fox with a rabbit in his mouth!


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I know a guy in Montrose that has Lion dogs............ He's an outfitter too, or I should say his Dad has/had an outfitters license, but that isn't his main job. I know when I was there, one guy in the group had a lion tag, (he's a local sheriff/deputy there) and he ended up taking one after a long chase. The previous day the dogs pushed one off of an elk that it was in the process of trying to kill. The dogs bayed the bloody and wounded Cow Elk instead of staying with the Lion. The dog handler wasn't happy, but I talked to him about it and I think he realized that since that was the first time the dogs had been exposed to something that had fresh blood on it, that is the reason why they stayed and didn't follow the lion.

That year, a female lion was in heat, and there were 7 toms in the area all because of her. One was a HUGE tom, and he was smart. The handler said the same Tom "rocked" his dogs twice (went down a cliff that the dogs couldn't get down).

If you want, I can dig up Jared's number for you or Marks number, who is the sheriff/deputy.

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That would be fantastic Esshup! Thank you!


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WB,
Do you feed at that location or is there some other reason you able to get photos at that (or those) locations? It is just an area of high traffic?

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Awsome pix!

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Do you feed at that location or is there some other reason you able to get photos at that (or those) locations? It is just an area of high traffic?

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Most of those pics are off of a trail that is naturally heavily traveled. We have tons of HUGE dead fall. If you make a trail thru it, the animals use it almost immediately.


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Recently got this pic from the remote cam. One or maybe two more years and this guy will be really nice!


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In a couple of yrs...If ya shot that thing this yr and gutted it, the bambi I shot fri would fit inside of it. You guys up north are too blessed when it comes to big animals. However it would make me a bit nervous walking to the blind pre dawn after seein the pics of bear and mountain lions. When it comes season, I'll take my chances with stingrays and sharks.


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Bob I definitely know what you are saying! Actually I live with it! I rarely hunt here in GA now a days because of being ruined by hunting out there.


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5 of us were walking in to hunt. It was still dark and we walked into a bunch of bedded elk. They exploded in all directions and miraculously missed us.


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That will get your heart pumping!


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You know a bear is big when their head looks small.

You are correct on the Mt. Lion deer kill numbers, and they will also kill elk. When I was out there, one lion that the dogs were running was in the process of trying to kill a cow elk when the dogs caught up to it. The lion ran away, and because the dogs weren't used to blood, they stayed with the elk (which was still alive) and kept it at bay until Shane got there. He was upset that the dogs didn't stay after the lion, but after I talked to him a while I think he realized that the blood scent was more powerful than the lion scent, so they stayed.

Mark got his lion the next day - it was that female in heat. Jerad and I cut a fresh track lion track while elk hunting and we bailed off the mountain to get his lion dogs from his house. It was a female track that we cut, and the dogs finally treed the lion. Mark was on the opposite side of the canyon, and the dogs had the lion bayed in a huge pine. The terrain was so steep that Mark couldn't get over there. Jerad was tying up the last dog when the lion took a swipe at him and bailed out of the tree. Mark made a great shot from across the canyon and got the lion.



I wear an XL glove and that is my hand under it's paw, and this is a small lion....


The people in the area were having a problem with the local lion biologist, saying that ALL the lions in the area were collared and tracked, and there weren't that many lions in the area. (yeah right) When they took that lion in to be checked they gave the biologist an earful, and it just so happens that his bosses boss was there too, and he got an earful too. Well, he biologist was out in the area the next day trying to collar more lions. Turns out the biologists girlfriend was one of the biologists from Ca. that was part of the "put the lions on the endangered list" movement in Ca...............


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Very cool Esshup!


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From my buddy's place. Bunch of pics of nice bucks. Here are a couple of the better ones.




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Here's some of his trouble makers





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A couple of years ago those bobcat pelts were worth over $1K each....

If I was him, I'd search locally for a good predator trapper. Coyotes and cats are the only furs that have any value to speak of this year.


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He has started some trapping himself. Be interesting to see what he gets. Believe it or not all leg holds, snares, etc are illegal out there. Go figure.


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Originally Posted By: wbuffetjr
He has started some trapping himself. Be interesting to see what he gets. Believe it or not all leg holds, snares, etc are illegal out there. Go figure.


I believe it. Too many people from Ca. moved to Colorado.....

I think I told you about the Mt. Lion Biologist there at Montrose dating the lady that was influential in getting Mt. Lions in Ca. on the "specially protected species" list there, and she is working on him to push that for Colorado too. I hope the sheep/cattle men there have enough clout to prevent that from happening.


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