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#456095 - 09/17/16 11:28 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Thanks very much Bill.

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#456120 - 09/17/16 10:20 PM First SMB [Re: Bill D.]
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Another first. I was fishing with 5 inch shiner under a cork for CC and snagged this SMB. Haven't caught one since stocked. I didn't get a weight cause I wanted to get it back in the pond but seemed to be healthy at 14.25 inches. Great fighter and I'm looking forward to catching it again when it grows up to a nice 18 incher!

Lots of firsts for us this week with PS, SMB and a couple of 13+ inch WE as well. My bride also caught a nice 16 inch LMB. Nice to see the hard work paying off! smile



Edited by Bill D. (09/17/16 10:23 PM)
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#456121 - 09/17/16 10:23 PM Re: First SMB [Re: Bill D.]
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Nice Bill!

You are making good progress!
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#456131 - 09/18/16 06:41 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Made contact but no response on what species they have yet.

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#456137 - 09/18/16 09:29 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Nice looking Smb Bill ! I don't remember your stocking numbers, and a lmb also smile Heaven rite here on earth smile

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#456170 - 09/18/16 09:41 PM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Thanks for the encouragement guys! We are very happy with the results so far.

Tracy, the SMB were stocked at around 7 inches in fall 2014 and a couple in spring 2015. We only have half a dozen or so total.
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#456183 - 09/19/16 09:23 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Nice! Those smallies are a blast to catch.

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#456185 - 09/19/16 11:15 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Your SMB are big enough that you now should have more than one dozen smallies. Look for signs of young ones. If you do fish trapping SMB readily enter fish traps.
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#456224 - 09/19/16 11:44 PM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Mark at Jonah's aquarium wrote the following in reply to my request for grass shrimp availability:

I have access to brood stock, but I don't currently have a pond I can harvest shrimp from. I've been talking to Bill Dill and he said there is some interest among the forum members in this species. Is there a thread on there that I should be following? Can you give me some info about what Fattigs and others have been charging for this species? I'm interested in growing them. Just need more info. FYI, the vegetation is very important for shrimps for habitat and for food. I make and can supply fine mesh dipnets for folks to use to sample their ponds to see if shrimp and other creatures are in there: http://jonahsaquarium.com/JonahSite/netdipnet.htm Feel free to share that on the forum if you like. Thanks!

Mark Binkley

Can anyone answer his questions about how Carol Fattig used to price her shrimp?
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#456229 - 09/20/16 06:57 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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Good article in the latest PB Mag about grassshrimp.
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#456230 - 09/20/16 07:27 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Dave Davidson1]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
Good article in the latest PB Mag about grassshrimp.

You r right Dave, wished I had some vegies for them to hang around in and a place for them to grow. But only FA in my pond right now and too many bg and res in there and no place for them to hide. Kinda a sucks frown

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#456232 - 09/20/16 07:47 AM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: Bill D.]
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I've got the perfect place for them, but no source as of yet.

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#456287 - 09/20/16 10:09 PM Re: First SMB [Re: Bill Cody]
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Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
Your SMB are big enough that you now should have more than one dozen smallies. Look for signs of young ones. If you do fish trapping SMB readily enter fish traps.


Have to laugh. A year or so back one of the pros told me that SMB would most likely not spawn in a small puddle like mine so when I had a chance to pick up a few SMB to ladder stock yesterday I put in 4 at 7+ inches and 1 at 10+

I hope you're right Bill. I only have minnow traps and haven't seen any yet. I still have at least 3 LMB as well but no sign of recruits. I wonder with the predators we have in the pond if there will be any significant number of recruits even if the LMB or SMB do spawn. We caught several 9 to 10 inch YP and a couple 13.5+ inch WE last week on 3 inch GSH. I would think those YP and WE would like small bass the same as GSH. I guess time will tell. If we have some recruits they should show up on a hook next summer. grin

PS - I know we had at least 3 mature LMB at spawn time this year as we've caught a 15, 15.5 and a 16 in the last couple weeks. We harvested the 15 and it was a female.


Edited by Bill D. (09/20/16 10:17 PM)
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#456535 - 09/26/16 05:09 PM More SF Update [Re: Bill D.]
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Our harvest 2016 update would not be complete without showing how the SF (other than the PS) are doing. We are catching several around this size with a few bigger. Also seeing at least three size classes smaller. Kept a couple as my bride needed them to barbecue for a Thai dish she was making.




Edited by Bill D. (09/27/16 08:36 PM)
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#456540 - 09/26/16 06:29 PM Re: More SF Update [Re: Bill D.]
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As Hank Hill would say, "Dammit Bill" most of your post make me hungry. Nice FAT BG, congrats on a lot of diligent effort coming to fruition. Next yr will be better.
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#456548 - 09/26/16 08:31 PM Re: More SF Update [Re: Bill D.]
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Thanks for the encouragement Bob! We have taken a lot of Rw measurements this summer on our fish and they have all fallen within 97 to 108. I suspect that guy would have been in that range as well. I was pleased to see even the PS from a few posts back was nice and chunky. I only supplemental feed around 3 cups of food once a day for my own entertainment. The fish look healthy to this uneducated eye so I figure they are doing ok. I give most of the credit to the vegetation, rip rap, etc in the pond providing the habitat for the food chain.

I know my little Mutts can't compare to a lot of you guys with 130%+ Rw but I'm happy with them.


Edited by Bill D. (09/26/16 09:44 PM)
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#456608 - 09/27/16 10:54 AM Re: More SF Update [Re: Bill D.]
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#457651 - 10/15/16 07:03 AM Re: Harvest Time [Re: Bill D.]
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Update....Harvest 2016 is drawing to a close on our pond. Still having the best luck catching the few remaining large CC on bait fish. My bride accidentally gut hooked a 4 inch BG yesterday. She put it under a cork, tossed it out and traded it in for a 24.5 inch 5 pound 8 ounce CC. Still have 4 or 5 more CC and at least one more LMB I would like to get out this fall.
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#457672 - 10/15/16 11:36 AM Re: Harvest Time [Re: Bill D.]
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Oh such tough chores. Good thing ya have your wife ta carry ya.
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#457677 - 10/15/16 01:06 PM Re: Harvest Time [Re: Bill D.]
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*~*~dreaming of the days when WE get to harvest fish~*~*

Sounds like a hard job...I'm feeling for you! lol.

Glad its going well. Didn't you say you had GSF?? Are they still there or have your LMB and CC taken care of most of them?
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#457695 - 10/15/16 09:37 PM Re: Grass Shrimp [Re: 4CornersPuddle]
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Originally Posted By: 4CornersPuddle
Mark at Jonah's aquarium wrote the following in reply to my request for grass shrimp availability:

I have access to brood stock, but I don't currently have a pond I can harvest shrimp from. I've been talking to Bill Dill and he said there is some interest among the forum members in this species. Is there a thread on there that I should be following? Can you give me some info about what Fattigs and others have been charging for this species? I'm interested in growing them. Just need more info. FYI, the vegetation is very important for shrimps for habitat and for food. I make and can supply fine mesh dipnets for folks to use to sample their ponds to see if shrimp and other creatures are in there: http://jonahsaquarium.com/JonahSite/netdipnet.htm Feel free to share that on the forum if you like. Thanks!

Mark Binkley

Can anyone answer his questions about how Carol Fattig used to price her shrimp?
What PondBoss forum threads would we recommend he follow?


This thread might be helpful.

Grass shrimp order
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#457829 - 10/18/16 08:12 PM Re: Harvest Time [Re: peachgrower]
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Originally Posted By: peachgrower
..... Didn't you say you had GSF?? Are they still there or have your LMB and CC taken care of most of them?


Only stocked one GSF. Not sure it is still in there.

IMHO every pond should have ONE GSF and ONE BCP no matter what the pond size! grin


Edited by Bill D. (10/18/16 08:13 PM)
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#457839 - 10/18/16 10:41 PM Re: Harvest Time [Re: Bill D.]
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If you stocked one GSF, you have more than one.

They are like those Russian nesting Matryoshka dolls. One inside the other inside the other inside the other. Nesting Dolls

The inside ones don't come out till you put the one in water. laugh
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#457907 - 10/19/16 08:09 PM Re: Harvest Time [Re: snrub]
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Originally Posted By: snrub
If you stocked one GSF, you have more than one.

They are like those Russian nesting Matryoshka dolls. One inside the other inside the other inside the other. Nesting Dolls

The inside ones don't come out till you put the one in water. laugh


Mystery solved....I think my LMB must be Russian too! cry


Edited by Bill D. (10/20/16 06:20 PM)
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#457969 - 10/20/16 08:20 PM Re: Spring stocking plan. Improving the food chain [Re: Bill D.]
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Tossed $100 bucks in the pond....

I was happy to see I still have several SFS and BNM this fall after my spring stocking. In an effort to help get them thru the winter till next spring's spawn, I dropped 10 pounds of FHM into my little puddle in the last week as easy catch diversions for my predator gauntlet to minimize the pressure on my desired forage. I have no idea if 2000 to 3000 FHM will help but I figure it can't hurt! smile My thinking is that I've read lots of posts about how hard it is to introduce a new species to a mature pond and thought I would try using cheap bait fish to "muddy" the water for the predators.

Anybody have any thoughts or experience on using a "diversion" strategy to preserve a species while trying to get it established?


Edited by Bill D. (10/20/16 08:37 PM)
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