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Stocked 800 Lone Star Legacy bass three weeks ago. Most fish around 3 inches, maybe 2.5 to 3.5 inches variation.
Anyway, a week ago my wife and I saw what appeared to be a LMB near one of the feeders after it went off. Larger than the BG, distinct body difference & swimming motion. However, there were some TP in the mix as well so we assumed it must be one of them.
Well, yesterday the same thing happened again. It came on the scene later than the BG, and we got a real good look. No doubt about it, it was a 7 inch LMB.
But how did it double in length in 3 weeks? I bet it weighed 6 to 8 times as much, too.
In three weeks.
Is this normal? Can LMB really grow that fast, gaining that kind of size so rapidly? We were told they'd reach 8 to 10 inches by the fall, but this seems much faster.
And what do 7 inch LMB eat? Can they handle small, 2 - 3 inch BG or TP yet, or do they still depend on FHM?
Thanks in advance for any answers, especially those who have LSL bass.
7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160
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No way, in my opinion a LMB goes from 3 to 7inches in just 3 weeks. However, sometimes things look bigger/smaller underwater than they actually are..
A 7inch bass will eat anything it can fit in its mouth.. BG, TP, Worm, insects...
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Keep in mind LMB will try to eat up to 1/3 their length. So if you had a 7 to 8 inch bass it could / would try to eat a 2 inch BG. Keep in mind the key word here is try! Bass at young age eat like crazy man and eat and eat and eat!!
I don't know that you would have that kind of growth in 3 weeks but if there is plenty for them to eat it could be.....
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I once found a approximately 12" LMB floating in a pond dead with about a 9" dead CC stuck in its throat. They will TRY to eat any prey that will fit in their mouths.
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It could be due both to magnification effect and a so called "shooter" fish that is genetically superior in growth characteristics. May be a 15 pound bass in the making! A few of the CC I stocked last fall are now twice as long as their contemporaries that were stocked at the same length and same time.
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In my opinion it's probably a case of having a larger individual in the mix with the legacies, a mis- identification, or there are LMB present from another source. I cant see that much growth in such a short time.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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About a week ago I caught and measured a florida lmb that I stocked at 4 and 1/2 inch length. It measured 7 and 1/2 inch. It had been in my pond exactly 8 weeks and grew 3 inches!! I was pleased with that. These were not Legacy but pure Florida strain from Overtons. In my opinion from years of sightfishing lmb... They look SMALLER in the water than they do when you get them out. Look like a 2 pounder on a bed and drag it out and weighs over 3 pounds. I too have rescued a 13 inch lmb swimming on the surface in a circle with a huge bluegill wedged in its jaw!!! Don't remember the bluegill living but the bass swam off!!
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Thanks for all the posts. I know the bass wasn't in there originally, so it must have been stocked. Almost certainly a shooter, probably was 5 or 6 inches when stocked.
I didn't see it take pellets, though of course it could have done so. Seems to join the party late. There are tons of small BG now after the spawn, and probably young TP, so it would have plenty to eat.
Haven't seen any FHM for a while. My BOW has no plants yet, afraid the FHM didn't make it for long.
7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160
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Stocked 800 Lone Star Legacy bass three weeks ago. Most fish around 3 inches, maybe 2.5 to 3.5 inches variation.
Anyway, a week ago my wife and I saw what appeared to be a LMB near one of the feeders after it went off. Larger than the BG, distinct body difference & swimming motion. However, there were some TP in the mix as well so we assumed it must be one of them.
Well, yesterday the same thing happened again. It came on the scene later than the BG, and we got a real good look. No doubt about it, it was a 7 inch LMB.
But how did it double in length in 3 weeks? I bet it weighed 6 to 8 times as much, too.
In three weeks.
Is this normal? Can LMB really grow that fast, gaining that kind of size so rapidly? We were told they'd reach 8 to 10 inches by the fall, but this seems much faster.
And what do 7 inch LMB eat? Can they handle small, 2 - 3 inch BG or TP yet, or do they still depend on FHM?
Thanks in advance for any answers, especially those who have LSL bass. I had a similar experience with Dustin at Optimal today. Impressive. SORRY, WRONG THREAD! 
Last edited by anthropic; 07/22/16 05:59 PM.
7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160
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Frank, not sure about your growth rates but I can tell you that the Lonestar Legacy LMB (From Overtons) were added to my pond one year ago June at 2 to 3" in size and the following March almost 50% of them were 13.5" and 2.8 lbs. That is not 2lbs 8 oz but 2.8lbs. And with your FHM's, they will move to deeper water this time of year and will be harder to see in the pond. Like you I thought mine were gone last year about this same time but when the water cooled down they showed back up. But I stocked 120 lbs in a 3.5 acre pond so maybe that is why I still have them in the pond. Good luck with your fishes
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In a new pond with lots of forage LMB can grow very fast the first 2 years. I have seen many times when a 3 yr old lake had some 7 lb LMB and bigger and many were 4 lbs..
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Thanks, guys.
Tracy, you have done an incredible job fattening up those bass! I really envy your BOW alkalinity, hardness, and pH levels. Getting my aeration system in soon, followed by liming, followed by dock and boats (never ends).
If my fish grow anything close to yours, I'd be delighted.
Ewest, that's very encouraging. Bob Lusk and others say that the first LMB stocked should not be taken out, unless they are very skinny, because they benefit from growth rates that won't be equaled later on in the BOW. Harvest the second and later generations, but not the first. Sounds like you have similar thoughts.
7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160
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Yes I never harvest my original stocker fish unless it is a put and take fishery. I agree with Bob and I would bet most here on that point. A new body of water is an incredible growth factory for those first on the scene. Its not that those fish are better its just that they were exposed to the optimal conditions for success.
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Thanks, guys.
Tracy, you have done an incredible job fattening up those bass! I really envy your BOW alkalinity, hardness, and pH levels. Getting my aeration system in soon, followed by liming, followed by dock and boats (never ends).
If my fish grow anything close to yours, I'd be delighted.
Ewest, that's very encouraging. Bob Lusk and others say that the first LMB stocked should not be taken out, unless they are very skinny, because they benefit from growth rates that won't be equaled later on in the BOW. Harvest the second and later generations, but not the first. Sounds like you have similar thoughts. Anthropic, I will say this, I stocked LSL LMB from Overton's on 5/29/15 at 2 1/4 - 2 1/2"lg. I caught the first on 9/25/15 and it was 10 3/4" lg and was a fatty. I won't say your situation was impossible, maybe unlikely...but, like ewest commented, under the optimum circumstances, anything is possible. Keep an eye out for the fish...I'm sure you'll see more of her.
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Thanks, stickem. My wife and I have decided to call her "Shooter"
7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160
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