Anybody ever built a hillbilly dock from heat treated oak pallets and 55 gal plastic drums? Both I can get for free. I could spray paint it camo. Dreaming already.
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If you ain't gonna fart, why eat the beans? . RES,HBG,YP,HSB,SMB,CC,and FHM. .seasonal trout.
I was passing thru a book store recently and noticed one on building docks. Never thought about looking into that avenue when researching them. I did not have the time to really look at it, but seemed nice from just thumbing thru it. Wish now I would have bought it anyway.
Perhaps Pond Boss has one they sell? Might be a good idea for the amount of interest everyone has in building them.
ZEP- don't know how much I have in my dock. Never totaled it up. I would find it hard to believe that I have more than 6-8 hundred. There is as much cost under the water as above, in bracing etc.
I didn't Build this one, but it was one of the main reasons I chose this piece of land when I was looking. I think the guy I bought from said he had around 12K in it.
The pictures don't do it justice. We have many great times on the dock!
It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? Ronald Reagan _______________ The good Brian
I didn't Build this one, but it was one of the main reasons I chose this piece of land when I was looking. I think the guy I bought from said he had around 12K in it.
The pictures don't do it justice. We have many great times on the dock!
Now that is one Bad A$$ dock right there...
1 Acre Pond with SMB, YP, LMB, GSF, RES, FHM, GSH, Papershell Crayfish, Pike 5.5 Acre Pond with LMB, BG
Lots of nice docks here, gang. I have tried but can't find pics of a dock I saw when I first joined the forum, but that one was really nice looking.
The thread was actually about crayfish and the poster had a lot of nice sized ones that were the point of his post. His dock, or pier as he referred to it, was in the background of some of the pics and was a really nice looking piece of work with what I seem to recall were rough hewn timbers. The pond wasn't full yet and so you could see the whole structure as it was built into the ground. Very nice looking dock as I recall.
That was intended for fishing but when I had the pond dug deeper, I was worried about any erosion that might occur. The dozer guys were told to stay at least 4' out from the dock but I think they got a little too close. That spot only has about 3' of water when the pond is at full pool.
It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? Ronald Reagan _______________ The good Brian
It's got a rail around it but yes, it does work for that. For some reason, the guy before me had the handrail that goes around the dock made with rails the lift up in certain places around it. I'm guessing that when he had "friends" down and they got out of hand, he'd just flip the rail up and.......
It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? Ronald Reagan _______________ The good Brian
16'X16' with a 64"X16' walk way out. 12 barrels 55 gallon that were 23" diameter by 36"s. One under the walk way that is not shown in these pictures. Just have to add my anchor system to the front to level her out and a swim ladder.
She can hold a 2500# live load.
Cheers Don.
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I really like the water-feature/waterfall! Can you post some close-up pics of that? I would really be interested in how you constructed it, and is it well-water or pond water being used? Send in PM unless others are interested.
Looks great! Can you tell me more about those posts? (size, depth, etc), how the walkway is attached to them and how the walkway is attached to the platform? How do you plan on anchoring the platform so it doesn't swing side to side in a heavy windstorm? Labradoodle or Goldendoodle or ?
I really like the water-feature/waterfall! Can you post some close-up pics of that? I would really be interested in how you constructed it, and is it well-water or pond water being used? Send in PM unless others are interested.
kind of a weak video. The top rock was about 5 feet across and the fall is about 8 feet with the pond at full pool. I have a 20 foot wide by 40 foot heavy rubber under the falls that run deep into the pond as well. When I fill my pond from the water sump I have it will flow over the falls as well. The sump pump will pump 6200 gph when on up the back of the falls with a 2" line. The water fall pump will pump 5500 gph from the pond with a 2" line as well. We stepped the bank and started at un disturbed dirt with three large 36"X24"X24" top rock or trap rock. Then my largest flat rocks all the way up. Stepping back 4 or 5 inches at a time till we ran out of rock. Keeping the rubber between the front rocks. We have more top rock or trap rock on the back where we started our base. Then piled field rock around the sides to make a mound. We then planted the pines behind so in five years it will help disguise where the water if coming from.
We used urethane water fall foam to control where we wanted the water to flow. Keeping the water flowing ahead and from running off the sides. A shot of foam then stone on top to redirect the water off the front of the stone.
We put beach stone. Round granite rock 2-4" below the falls deep into the pond till the rubber run out. This was for the hope that the bank will not erode with the water flowing down the falls. AND with the crazy hope in the future I can get walleye to spawn in my pond. This will be after we give the perch three year head start on numbers.
Originally Posted By: esshup
Looks great! Can you tell me more about those posts? (size, depth, etc), how the walkway is attached to them and how the walkway is attached to the platform? How do you plan on anchoring the platform so it doesn't swing side to side in a heavy windstorm? Labradoodle or Goldendoodle or ?
Those posts are Pine posts 10"X10"X96" that are dug into the ground 4 feet. We need to go down 4 feet for frost here or the frost will lift the post. I have one bag of concrete on the bottom of the post to prevent any frost lift on the sides of the posts.
My plan is to do this (see attachment) on the front corners. I may not place the full log like anchor on the bottom just a full bucket of concrete then a second that is 2/3rds of a bucked hanging. Just did a depth check and we are at 11 foot 5 inches and are down 6"s from full pool. Some stainless aircraft cable and crimps through a 8" pulley. 8" pulley so I can get a 14" bucket to hang with out rubbing on the cable. Each bucket will have a eyelet bolt anchored in the concrete. I will cut the steel handles off the buckets. If you can spot it in the dock but I have plans for an extra 200 pounds to hang off the dock at the front that should level the dock and load the barrels so the dock has little pitch and roll to it.
We are going to place a 12X12 bolt up gazebo with a canvas top that we can take off for the winter.
Yes that is Lacy our golden doodle. She is just about one year old and loves the adventures down at the pond.
When I was in the local water ski club, we used a system like that to anchor the ski jump in place. The only difference is that we made an "X" with the anchors on the bottom - we didn't run them straight up. Pully on the right had the cable running to the anchor that was under the pully on the left, pully on the left had the cable running to an anchor that was under the pully on the right. It worked very well. The problem that we had was not making the cables long enough for high water. The local rugrats would all climb on the jump, making it sink, then they'd all bail off. When it popped up, it would pop up high enough so it'd slightly yank on the anchors because the counterweights would slam into the bottom of the jump.
Due to those problems and concerns about liability we pulled it off the lake (public lake).
I'm planning to build one very similar, only a little smaller, perhaps 12 x 16. In order to level the dock due to the weight of the gangway on the one side, I was thinking to add a couple of extra barrels on that side and add ballast (water) to level. Is that a reasonable approach or is there a better way?
When I was in the local water ski club, we used a system like that to anchor the ski jump in place. The only difference is that we made an "X" with the anchors on the bottom - we didn't run them straight up. Pully on the right had the cable running to the anchor that was under the pully on the left, pully on the left had the cable running to an anchor that was under the pully on the right. It worked very well. The problem that we had was not making the cables long enough for high water. The local rugrats would all climb on the jump, making it sink, then they'd all bail off. When it popped up, it would pop up high enough so it'd slightly yank on the anchors because the counterweights would slam into the bottom of the jump.
Due to those problems and concerns about liability we pulled it off the lake (public lake).
You know I was thinking of crossing the cables to but worried about the fish the kids catch off the dock wrapping them self around the cables. Just with the two on the corners may be allot as well to get wrapped around.
How well did the anchor system balance the jump for list and bounces?
Originally Posted By: 2Old2Soon
I'm planning to build one very similar, only a little smaller, perhaps 12 x 16. In order to level the dock due to the weight of the gangway on the one side, I was thinking to add a couple of extra barrels on that side and add ballast (water) to level. Is that a reasonable approach or is there a better way?
You know after doing this I wish I had added some water to the barrels to lower my float height. I may have to add another barrel under the walk way too. I only have one under it. The whole dock is listing back to the walk way 3" on the 16 feet because of the weight of the walk. I really really under estimated the weight of the walk.
The other thought is to move the rear barrels back closer to the walk to help lift the rear of the dock. Because of the direction of the joist it only a few screws to move the barrel back if they are not wedged in there tight yet.
I bought a full lift of 2X6 for a total of 96 sticks. I then bought one 8 foot 6X6 for the 10" blocks in the corners and four good 16 foot 2X12 for the outer rim of main dock. All the barrels are set back 12" from the rim of the dock then evenly spaced joist between the barrels was about a 10" on center. All the joist are 2X6 with 2X6 bridging block rows on 4 foot centers. With the 2X12 16 footers they were 16 foot 3/4 of an inch long so I trimmed them to 16 foot 1/2 inch. My 2X6 were all 16 foot 1/4 inch so I did not need to cut anything just lay the deck boards in a screw them off. The ends are end screwed in through the 2X12. It is best to screw the full deck off before the sun get at the wood and warps it all before you get it screwed.
The walk way was 16 foot 3 inch long. I made it 64"s wide so I could get 3 planks out of each 16 foot 2X16. The long span of the 16 foot walk we put them on 10" centers and bridging blocking every 3 feet. I really should have placed two barrels under the walk because I have just about got that barrel totally under water and still have a list to her.
The anchor system worked very well. It was considerably larger than yours tho - the anchors were large concrete blocks, and the counterweights were large as well. The jump had to be held in position so you hit it the same every time, whether there were waves from boats or not. That was pretty critical because a good skiier would hit it at 50 mph or more.
It'll be interesting to see how my dock floats. I've been lax in getting it done, but it will be in the water by the middle of July. I have 22 barrels under it. Walkway is 16'x4', end of pier is 12'x8'. Gangplank is 4'x16'. I figured I had to have 2 55 gal barrels and one 30 gal barrel at the end where the gangplank rested on the pier to keep it floating level.
22 barrels wow. A small tip that worked great was we framed it next to the water with no decking. I lifted the frame work up one end at a time to lay fence posts under it. I then pushed the dock out to the water with my loader tractor with dock rolling on the fence posts. At the 50/50 position on the shore I pushed the dock down with the loader to raise the water side and two guys one on each side put the first row of barrels in. Then I chained the outer stringer farthest from the water in the center. Lifted her way up and moved ahead. As we went in I lowered the loader and had the boys place the barrels under till we had her all floating. It would have been allot of lifting with out the loader tractor for the size of the dock.
My joists were spaced at 19" center for my 23" diameter barrels. The joist were 2X6 and the blocking I used to hold the barrel in were 2X10 because with the 2X12 outer rim and the 2X6 dropped for the 1.5" decking the 2X10 was perfectly level with the bottom of the 2X12 rum joist. These 2X10 blocks worked great to hold the barrels in with out squirting out as we launched the dock.
Thanks for the tips! I'm planning on something similar, but I only have a small Kubota tractor with FEL.
Same as you, it's framed with the barrels under it. I'm going to pick it up, (it's sideways to the pond now) and put PVC pipes under the barrels. I figure the plastic barrels will slide pretty easily on the PVC pipes. 2 pipes per barrel, sorta like launching a boat into the water. At least that's the plan. Right now the frame is approximately 8' from the water's edge, and it's on a 6:1 slope so there isn't a big drop to get to the water.
I plan on drilling/washing 2" Galvanized pipe into the pond bottom, and let the floating portion slide up/down over the pipes. There will be plastic sleeves U-bolted to the outside of the pier in 6 places and the pipes will be inside the plastic PVC. The walkway will be hinged to a 12' long, 4' wide platform that is attached to 8 pieces of 4"x6"x4'-8' long treated timbers that are sunk into the ground and concreted in. The walkway is 16' long, and will roll over the top of the floaing portion of the pier. Once it's floating I'll add the decking. The decking where the walkway rolls on the pier will be in place before it's floated. From low to full pool, I figure the walkway will only roll 18" max.
I am thinking of a very similar design so post lots of pictures. Mine most likely will not get done this year. I am just getting started on the deck for the house. Need to finish that this summer and have lots of plans for fall food plots so the rest of my summer is taken
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