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#441266 - 03/20/16 08:36 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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Originally Posted By: RobertFisher
Originally Posted By: esshup
Originally Posted By: RobertFisher
Have you had a type of fish called "Barramundi"? I had this fish once (bought live from a market), and it was really good. Anyone can compare this fish to the other fishes?


A fish grower by me grows Barramundi for the live market. Never had any tho.


I did some research about this fish and found that fish farmers breed them in freshwater, then put them in bay water to grow. But at the same time people said they can be grown entirely in freshwater. So I am not sure what is needed to grow this fish.



One of the first things I would look into is if permits are needed, and what other special obstacles you have to go thru to be allowed to have them. As you find stuff out keep us informed. It may prove to be invaluable info for other pond owners.

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#441269 - 03/20/16 08:47 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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I'm including a link that I found that says Barramundi is actaully Asian Seabass. Perhaps that will let others who know about Asian Seabass tell you if it is feasible in ponds and compare it's flavor to local species.


http://pdf.gaalliance.org/pdf/GAA-Boeing-Aug00.pdf

From what I can quickly gather from this, they will grow in freshwater, but not reproduce because of it. As stated "but must be placed in saltwater (28 to 35 ppt) prior to the breeding season to enable final gonadal maturation."

I wonder if this is needed everytime to spawn, or just once and they are forever able to spawn?




Edited by fish n chips (03/20/16 01:48 PM)

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#441293 - 03/20/16 12:41 PM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: fish n chips]
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Registered: 03/18/16
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Loc: California
Originally Posted By: fish n chips
Originally Posted By: RobertFisher
Originally Posted By: esshup
Originally Posted By: RobertFisher
Have you had a type of fish called "Barramundi"? I had this fish once (bought live from a market), and it was really good. Anyone can compare this fish to the other fishes?


A fish grower by me grows Barramundi for the live market. Never had any tho.


I did some research about this fish and found that fish farmers breed them in freshwater, then put them in bay water to grow. But at the same time people said they can be grown entirely in freshwater. So I am not sure what is needed to grow this fish.



One of the first things I would look into is if permits are needed, and what other special obstacles you have to go thru to be allowed to have them. As you find stuff out keep us informed. It may prove to be invaluable info for other pond owners.


Yes will definitely post here if I find more info.

Here is what that fish looks like the way I had it.


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#441505 - 03/22/16 08:40 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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HSB are pretty tasty too!
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#441512 - 03/22/16 09:46 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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Mr Fisher, you're new here but if ya haven't noticed I tend ta give everyone a hard time. Soooo, did that thing wash up on the beach that way or did ya add the regurgitated oyster in it's mouth?
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#441520 - 03/22/16 10:31 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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Crappie
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CC & Tilapia are good but can be nasty depending on diet and water.

BG are ok
LMB & HSB not so much

Pike can be good also
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#441567 - 03/22/16 04:42 PM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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I ain't that hungry!!
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#441569 - 03/22/16 05:34 PM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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Learn to bleed any fish you catch for the table. Bleed it and then place on ice. Makes cleaning way easier and the meat firmer and whiter, not nearly as much red meat to cut off. Most fish, we bleed them by taking tin snips to the gills as soon as we catch them. Cut at base of gills. When in boat, we throw in livewell with it running. When fishing from shore we use a 5 gallon bucket. Give them 10 minutes and place on ice. Makes a big difference in how they taste.

My list goes:
1. WE
2. Crappie
3. Yellow Perch
4. LMB

Also depends on how I cook them. For the grill: I can't beat a walleye fillet wrapped in tin foil with a few peppers, garlic, onions, and olive oil. For deep fried, crappie is my go to. For tater tot/fish casserole (amazing dish in the oven!) I like yellow perch. I don't clean BG, too much work. But they are delicious too.

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#441600 - 03/23/16 08:28 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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In a pond, well if I could first choice for me would be

1. WE or Trout if your pond can handle them.
2. If pond is big enough Crappie otherwise big BG! Wow they are good!
3. Believe it or not the HSB I had was good I was very surprised very flakey and not mushy not sure about in summer time though..

And 4th would be LMB they are ok in the late winter, fall and spring but once it gets warm / hot out they just don't taste that great to me and they do get kinda mushy...

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#441606 - 03/23/16 09:07 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RC51]
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I've found that with any fish, post catch treatment has a lot to do with the flavor and texture.

Best way? Have a cooler 3/4 full of ice and add barely enough water to make it a bit slushy. Immediately upon catching, put the fish in the cooler with the ice/water, especially during the summer.
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#441612 - 03/23/16 09:51 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: esshup]
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Try adding salt to that mix Esshup that really takes the blood out of the flesh

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#441694 - 03/23/16 06:55 PM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: Bob-O]
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Originally Posted By: Bob-O
Mr Fisher, you're new here but if ya haven't noticed I tend ta give everyone a hard time. Soooo, did that thing wash up on the beach that way or did ya add the regurgitated oyster in it's mouth?


Does look like a bonus piece there, doesn't it... =)

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#441720 - 03/23/16 10:33 PM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: Pat Williamson]
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Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Try adding salt to that mix Esshup that really takes the blood out of the flesh


Salt acts not only as a preservative, but by adding it to the ice/water mixture you also drop the temperature. Yes, below 32 degrees!

An old trick I use when redfishing far from home is to add large crystals of salt, such as for ice cream makers, to the ice in the cooler. So long as the filets are cleaned and dried carefully, sealed in plastic, and placed in the salt/ice/water mix, they will stay good for a LONG time without freezing. In some cases I've cooked them 9 days after catching and they tasted totally fresh.


Edited by anthropic (03/23/16 11:17 PM)
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#441729 - 03/24/16 12:46 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: anthropic]
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When I was an offshore charter captain we would plunge the fish into a seawater ice slush while it was alive to draw the blood to the core of the fish removing it from the flesh. Makes a huge difference how the fish tastes. They do that with sushi grade tuna also

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#441730 - 03/24/16 12:52 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: Pat Williamson]
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Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
When I was an offshore charter captain we would plunge the fish into a seawater ice slush while it was alive to draw the blood to the core of the fish removing it from the flesh. Makes a huge difference how the fish tastes. They do that with sushi grade tuna also


Makes a lot of sense. I know that fish from cold water have firmer and tastier flesh than the same fish in warm water.
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#441759 - 03/24/16 10:41 AM Re: What are the best eating fish to stock in a pond? [Re: RobertFisher]
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For my money I'll rank them like this:

1 - COLD WATER Crappie
2 - Walleye
3 - Yellow Perch
4 - Bluegill
5 - Trout

I'm specifying the water temp in my first selection because in my opinion crappie out of warm water is not nearly as good....the flesh is too mushy.


I'll also say that my #5 choice may fall higher on my list if eaten more....I've had hundreds of meals of the top 4 prepared many different ways, but few of #5.
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