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Getting spelling correct is an Individual choice within you. Is it necessary for a guy with a Camo Rig tho?

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I think I am going to create something to apply the polymer below the surface, and directly where it's wanted, so wind/rain is not an issue...Now, if I can only get TJ to send me some to play with....


rex, i am sitting on about 300lbs of soilfloc. i'll trade you a ziplock bag full if you bring me 200 adult male coppernose bg..hahaha


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lol Scott...Did you read "The Art Of The Deal" or something??? laugh



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Originally Posted By: scott69


if you bring me 200 adult male coppernose bg..hahaha

You should talk to CRAY here on the forum, He has some really nice 12-13" CNBG available. I don't think he has any soilfloc though.


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I might buy some of your extra Soilfloc, if we could get it to NW Arkansas for a reasonable price.

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Hey TJ, was gonna pm ya but thought maybe someone else would benefit from this ?
First an explanation about my pond/leak. Pre PB I had my pond dug. When it was done about two days later I noticed a white line about 4"s thick and 18-20' long about 3' below my overflow. Went over and found it to be hundreds of Cabbage butterflies drinking from a gravel vein. I just thought cool, a source of water(spring) to help fill the pond. Of course everyone knows what that really is a source for water to leave the pond. The pond is about 1/4 acre but I think from what I've read that I can probably pinpoint my app to about a stretch of 25-30'. I would probably feel more confident to do a double app about a month apart. Approximately how much do you est that I will need and cost including shipping to NE In ?


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1 unit covers 4400 sq ft. Shipping for 1 unit varies from $75-$150 depending on location - business address typically runs cheaper. Wholesale pricing from Aquaben is $345-$350, PB discount ordering through me is 5%. Happy to help, let's talk when you get back home.


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Will do.


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So do you measure surface area to determine how much you need or acre/feet or ....?


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Yes, surface area is what we use to determine application amount.


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Mine is being shipped now.


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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
Mine is being shipped now.


Heck, I thought TJ would deliver it! He could show you how to apply it correctly then.


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About the time TJ would haul a bunch of white powder down ta Texas is the time the troopers would stop him for lookin suspicious. Then he would be a guest of the state while the law figured it wasn't for the nose. Stay home TJ.


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I have had no real window to apply more than a couple of pounds at a time here. The fact that it has to be applied when there is NO wind makes it very frustrating. I might have to wait many months for such a day here. I know the product can be effective, but such wind restrictions negate a lot. A pond could go dry waiting for a totally calm day. Call me frustrated. Still losing 1/4 to 1/2 inch a day, it varies.

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I've applied it successfully in winds up to 7-8 mph. Summer and fall in Nebraska are a lot less windy than spring. Trees around the pond helps block wind too. Aren't you just applying a small area from shore? If so winds should impact your application far less than those in boats doing a full pond treatment.


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Applying along base of dam from shore. The lady at Aquaben told me on the phone there should be zero wind when applying. Pond gets almost constant wind.

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OK - just trying to relate my experience with the product - I don't know that NE gets any windless days in the course of the year. Maybe NW AR is the same way. I actually treated my pond with Sandra at Aquaben last March in 8-10 MPH winds - just an FYI. Pond partially sealed after the partial treatment - hit remainder of pond a month later to seal the remainder where I was unaware of additional leaks. Both days were about the same wind speed - treating from shore is a lot easier than trying to manage boat position and direction during very calm days, but from shore I don't feel it's as important. Up to you, just trying to help with the benefit of my experience with wind conditions.


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If you are looking for low to 0 wind conditions, right before sunup until the sun starts to heat things up is your best bet.


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That's when I treated, evenings...wind lays down all night allowing polymer to sink in treated areas. Worked so far for me.


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Mine came yesterday. Now to find the right day when conditions are right and help is available.


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DD1, TJ can help. You might want to reread (if you have 30 min of free time... grin ) this post in case it helps you.

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Waiting for my soilfloc to arrive. Should be any day.
Measured water loss on Monday. I've lost 14.25" since Jan 1. Comes out to 1.676" per week. Obviously not enough loss to drain the pond and repair the entire base. Other ponds in the area have lost about half that amount. We had a couple of smaller snow falls during those two months. Not sure how much moisture that contributed to the water level. I'll be putting the rain gauge back out this week.
Supposed to get rain next week. I'd like to get the soilfloc down before the rains come in.
My pond sets low to surrounding hills, and is surrounded by trees. Very still in the evenings and mornings.


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SetterGuy,
The only downside to rain is just brings some wind with it. If you do it before the rain that would be fine. If you do it after the rain and conditions are still very calm to achieve a good even application, even a slight overlapping application, their might be an advantage from another inch or 2 of water in the pond which will give more hydraulic pressure above the soilfloc to push it down into the cracks. It works best with the pond at full pool at maximum hydraulic pressure forcing the polymer to find the cracks. If the rain is a light rain it won't matter either way.

I had the ability to fill my pond to capacity using my well, I understand not everyone can do that smile

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CC, I am going to do my dam. It wasn't cored when built. I can go to the back side and see that my water loss is under the dam. Now where is the bottom of the dam when the pond is full as it now is? That is what I have to figure out. SOMEWHERE I have pictures from 15 years ago.


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Ok, I might actually wait until the rains come through next week, and look for a bit of a break in the weather. I've got branches out around the banks hoping for a YP spawn anyway. Makes total sense about the hydraulic pressure of a full pool.
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I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.
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