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Update: The pond is as clear now as it was when Rainman left. I'm guessing about 24" visibility but didn't have sechi disk at the time. I'll make one a get a more precise reading on the clarity but I can say that it is a great sight these days when going thru the gate and seeing a "new" pond.
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Good Brian,
Are you going to change any stocking numbers this year because of your water clarity? Any other changes in the future?
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Cisco, though I'm glad to hear your clarity has stayed, I'm also a little bummed I don't have to come back and spray more...even if under my guarantee...lol I loved your place!
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Brian-Rex said I probably need another 1500 or so BG, I've talked to Chad at Bob's place and he'll have them as soon as I want them.
Rainman- I think you'll need to come back and check the water, somethings wrong but I can't put my finger on it!!
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Good Brian, Just a hint, go heavy on the forage, it can't hurt.... Having Rex back is also a good call, but try to coordinate the visit, he missed the whole east side of Texas last time.
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We really need more pictures....
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I'll get some more pics this weekend. I haven't had much time to fish lately but that's going to change!
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The subject says "pic heavy" but the pic per post capita has fallen below 1.
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That water looks just like it should...awesome!!! With all the wind/wave action you get, there is zero suspended clay being seen!
I think there is some minor amounts of fish poo and possibly other fine organics being stirred up from all the wind/wave action, but knowing how deep the rip/rap goes, your water is really clear! The water clarity is a little deceptive because you are getting bottom browns being refracted into the water column along with glare and surrounding color refraction. I'd bet a secchi would be at 6 feet+ clarity.
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Good Brian,
I like American Pondweed. I am growing it so I can move it around where I want it. It is easy to control, it grows well and the fish use it.
I am sure there are others, but it is my favorite for use in our big pond.
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+1
In the not too distant past in an issue of PBM, Bob L. said he really likes American Pond Weed and it provides great cover for the little guys.
I THINK I have a plant or two that just appeared last year. I hope it takes hold as I really need vegetation and finding desirable submerged plants that work with large water level fluctuations is not easy.
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Primrose can be very good cover also, but can also get out of control if not managed well
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I shall call Rainman Clearman from here on out!
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Good call Cecil! I think it should be Clearman. The American pondweed I planted 2 years ago was the only plant that made it past the 1st year. It has since gone away but now with the sun being able to penetrate more, I'll get some more in this spring along with some rushes of some sort. And I'll make a sechi this weekend and get a better reading but I'm thinking 6' might be optimistic be we shall see.
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.... I'll get some more in this spring along with some rushes of some sort...... Do you have a source to buy American Pondweed?
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Good Brian, you may be right on my optimism, yet whatever the clarity, no turbidity is from any suspended clay now.
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Bill-yes sir I do. I have to drive about 30 miles to get it and then another 130 or so to my place but I can get it.
Clearman-maybe you'd like to come check it yourself? Your always welcome anytime. And I do agree, the old mudhole is as clear as it has ever been.
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Do you know if the place you buy the pondweed ships or has a website?
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He just might Bill. His name is Joe Snow, really nice guy. http://www.joesnowaquaticplants.com/
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Thank You Sir! I sent him an e-mail. Sure hope he ships. He has a pretty impressive plant list.
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Good Brian, that's very cool. What's interesting is that the Bad Brian and I treated a cow tank of mine 2-3 years ago, and it still clears after getting muddy via wind or bovine shoreline trampling. Primrose can be very good cover also, but can also get out of control if not managed well I completely agree with Rex. WP is an invasive, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a nuisance. My experience has been that fish fry, and crayfish really love it. The shoreline canopy it creates also holds smaller LMB close to the shore. It's very easy to control also. I always keep a patch in my brood pond, and just rake it back when it gets too rangy. I would never recommend it, but I sure like mine.
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Not just small LMB Al. One of the largest LMB I ever encountered was under a patch of WP in 4 ft of water looking for craws. I just happened to place a plastic craw in front of her nose. WP is easily (with some effort) raked out of a pond. Goats love to eat it also.
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Water primrose spreads by fragmentation, so rake carefully!
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Great news Brian - I'm really glad your water has responded to Rex's treatment. Sigh of relief, glad you can finally start enjoying the full potential of your pond!
If you need APW I have it in abundance up here. If you're ever up this way you are welcome to take some seeds with you, or maybe I could mail some down your way in August which I think is when they historically start seed development.
In my experience, macrophytes will establish themselves naturally and it's rather a crap shoot on what you'll see. With your improved clarity I'll wager you see some action this season. Not a bad idea, however, to nudge the process along in the direction you want by planting certain cultivars - as if beneficial vegetation gets established first it can out compete less desirable ones. I got lucky with my APW and Arrowhead and some rushes and sedges I really like, unlucky with coontail and chara. I now treat the latter to help encourage the others to keep the upper hand, but everything has it's season and it's important to remain vigilant. Let me know if I can help, and congrats again on the great looking water.
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