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Well, I finally got my pond limed to day in SE Texas. I've been trying to get this done for several months, but it either rains like hell and takes at least a week for the area around the pond to dry up enough to get back there safely and out, or I couldn't make arrangements for use of the trailer. We've been nine days straight without rain, and it's supposed to rain here again in the early morning. I had a small window, but gotter done. My lil BOW is a little over a half surface acre with ~4 acre/ft. of volume. I have a very aggressive watershed, as the home site is ~20' higher in elevation with regards to the pond. I dispersed the lime with my bucket all the way around, but loaded the shallow end heavy with lime as the watershed will wash it in. At my last water test, my pH was 6.8 and water hardness was 40ppm. I have had clay suspension issues since this pond was finished in the summer of 2014. Visibility has never been more than ~8" (on a good day). Hopefully in time, the wind, wave, and water action, will disperse the lime enough to make an improvement in visibility.


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Well done Charlie!


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Good job Charlie
Now we wait to see the results. Your "Legs" will be able to see all the groceries real soon

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Bet it feels good ta have that complete. Congrats.


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Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Good job Charlie
Now we wait to see the results. Your "Legs" will be able to see all the groceries real soon


Thanks, that's the plan...get that rascal cleared up a bit so the "Texas Legs" can dominate...


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And DOMINATE they will

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Bet it feels good ta have that complete. Congrats.


Bob....Thanks, yeah it does. I have not been looking forward to this project. Well, 2 tons later, and it's done. You know how it goes....it's always something....


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Stickem, I don't know how to tell you this in an easy way.......... but you used the wrong lime. You gotta do it over.



Naaaa. Just kidding. It will help your pond out a lot I bet.

The BG will disperse it. They will make nests in the piles and scatter it in the process.

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Originally Posted By: snrub
Stickem, I don't know how to tell you this in an easy way.......... but you used the wrong lime. You gotta do it over.



Naaaa. Just kidding. It will help your pond out a lot I bet.

The BG will disperse it. They will make nests in the piles and scatter it in the process.



Snrub...damn, that ain't even funny!!! Lol. I asked the folks at the farm supply several times, "now, this is ag lime, right? Calcium Carbonate, right?" Fella must've thought I was OCD or something. Good to know about the BG bedding. As mentioned, I layed it in pretty heavy on the shallow end as mentioned because of the inlet of the watershed.


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Snrub I will send you your money for that one , thanks again. Wat chu tink of dat wan chawley?

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Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Snrub I will send you your money for that one , thanks again. Wat chu tink of dat wan chawley?


Pat,
I mentioned to Bob O the other day (when you'll high-jacked that FA thread), that you were a pretty straight up guy...but, prone to being a bit suspect. Well...I guess there is no need to defend my comment...


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snrub, it looked to me he was adding sand for a beach smile My agg lime did not have that sandy look, looked more like gray gravel lol Charlie u sure they did not bring u sand? smile Driver might have been new to the trade lol

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Snrub I will send you your money for that one , thanks again. Wat chu tink of dat wan chawley?


Pat,
I mentioned to Bob O the other day (when you'll high-jacked that FA thread), that you were a pretty straight up guy...but, prone to being a bit suspect. Well...I guess there is no need to defend my comment...


Dangit man ! It was worth it

Tracy I think you are right - it is sand-

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snrub, it looked to me he was adding sand for a beach smile My agg lime did not have that sandy look, looked more like gray gravel lol Charlie u sure they did not bring u sand? smile Driver might have been new to the trade lol

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LMAO....I was the driver....Tracy, don't encourage Pat W....


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Charlie,

Our Ag lime here doesn't look like that either. Ours is more like fine gray gravel. Another vote that it's probably sand. smile

Hey, On the bright side...you now have a beach! grin


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Well, I guess I may have to invest in some sun tan lotion...


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Originally Posted By: stickem'
Well, I guess I may have to invest in some sun tan lotion...

Charlie don't lay on that beach the "sand"might burn ya gee I hope that wasn't hydrated lime then your beach will be littered with dead fish

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Charlie, I wonder if the guys @ the store was laughing there arse off when u drove off, " the boss said we had to clean up all that sand from the parking lot" And like I said, the driver was new smile

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Charlie, I wonder if the guys @ the store was laughing there arse off when u drove off, " the boss said we had to clean up all that sand from the parking lot" And like I said, the driver was new smile

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Well, I thought you trouble makers might be on to something until she showed up out of the SE Texas woods...she said she'd heard about a new beach in Polk County. Then I figured, hell...a lil sand wont hurt...


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Charlie,

Our Ag lime here doesn't look like that either. Ours is more like fine gray gravel. Another vote that it's probably sand. smile

Hey, On the bright side...you now have a beach! grin


High magnesium lime (dolomite) will be grey in colour. Most all calcium carbonate is tan to brown.

Not sure if there is any sugar beat factory's around you guys but their sugar beat lime is really good and really cheap.

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Charlie, I wonder if the guys @ the store was laughing there arse off when u drove off, " the boss said we had to clean up all that sand from the parking lot" And like I said, the driver was new smile

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Well, I thought you trouble makers might be on to something until she showed up out of the SE Texas woods...she said she'd heard about a new beach in Polk County. Then I figured, hell...a lil sand wont hurt...


Well done Charlie! Know where I can buy some of that Ag Lime? grin


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Charlie, you have that wood nymph there, I'll apply alum to your pond for free!!! laugh I hope the lime (if that IS lime) will help settle some of your clay, but I wouldn't count on it as the cure.

+5 on never having seen Ag Lime that looked like that!



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Originally Posted By: TGW1
snrub, it looked to me he was adding sand for a beach smile My agg lime did not have that sandy look, looked more like gray gravel lol Charlie u sure they did not bring u sand? smile Driver might have been new to the trade lol

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We get at least a couple different types of ag lime here. The fineness of grind determines how quickly it reacts to the acidic soil or water. So fine lime works quicker, but coarser stuff tends to last longer. Over a certain size particle, from what I'm told it becomes ineffective for neutralizing (at least in my lifetime).

We have regular ag lime that is specifically ground for ag lime from limestone rock. Then there is (or at least was, not sure if we can still get it) some that is a byproduct of mfg some other rock products and is actually the saw dust from cutting rock. It is very high ecc and is fast acting, but does not last as long. If you step into a truck load of it, be prepared to sink up above your waist. It is like talcum powder.

Point is, ag lime can look significantly different in different parts of the country.

What I like to do around the pond edges is use what is called in Kansas AB3. It has large rocks up to about 1" in diameter and everything fine below that. In other words everything that will pass through maybe a 1.5" screen after going through the grinder. It is used in driveways a lot because the fines will pack. I would guess it has about 20 percent ag lime, because to get ag lime along with other grades of rock they screen out the ag lime portion to get aggregate to make concrete, etc.

It is not what a person wants to use specifically to lime a pond, but I like to put a 3 or 4' band around the banks before the pond fills and some piles here and there for BG nests. The ag lime portion just helps our naturally acidic soils/waters.

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Charlie, you have that wood nymph there, I'll apply alum to your pond for free!!! laugh I hope the lime (if that IS lime) will help settle some of your clay, but I wouldn't count on it as the cure.

+5 on never having seen Ag Lime that looked like that!


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Well, I added the lime primarily as a buffer for the coming summer months to raise the hardness. My pH is presently 6.8. If the lime helps with a little clarity, then that's icing on the cake. I bought what is widely used here in this part of the world and is identified as ag lime (powdered Calcium Carbonate). I guess time will tell how effective the application will be. As far as the wood nymph goes....my wife, Debbie, says she has to go. I'm sure you and I can work out some kind of trade...


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