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Does Canada have a restriction on sale of furs to Russia?


If you check North Bay pricing for Canadian fur there is a racoon sale and sales. A high of $30 and low of $7. Canada still sells to Russia.


It's odd that otter pelts are being sold anywhere from $89 - $189 on several sites on the web. Must be a hell of a mark up after tanning is completed.


Pricing for a US company to tan pelts.


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I wouldn't be surprised if it was the geese. At Away With Geese we offer maintenance free solar powered flashing lights that work at night to deter geese. We are in Cincinnati, not far from you, and are a family business. With over 10,000 sold we have a 97% success rate. We guarantee satisfaction and have tons of testimonials on our page if you would like to check them out.


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As you'll know, I've been attempting to trap what I believe to be an otter in my pond. I've managed to come up with a picture, but it's very grainy and not sharp at all. There is evidence that leads me to believe it is a beaver....or I may have both. Your thoughts are welcome in identifying this animal.


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The evidence that leads me to believe that it is a beaver is displayed below. These branches were found in the pond along the grassy shoreline. There are no trees within 10yds of my lil BOW that these branches could be blown into the pond. These were purposely cut, carried, and stripped in the pond. I don't know much about otters, but I know they are meat eaters (fish) and I do not believe that they display this type of behavior when it comes to foraging on saplings.






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I know this for certain...the Duke brand "Conibear 330" style traps are brutal. I've had some nuisance waterfowl unfortunately go after the lil BG that I used for bait...the traps cleanly broke them in 3 distinct pieces. Gotta like that about a trap...in the meantime, I will continue to try and trap the predator...


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stickem':

Those sticks are from a beaver.

They don't have to build a "house", they will also make a den in the bank like a muskrat.


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Thanks, esshup....the lesser of two evils, I guess. I felt the stripped branches were from a beaver...I had just wished the photo had been better. I will continue to attempt to trap him.


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Stickem the picture of the critter sure looks like an otter on his back. Beavers don't really do that.

I tool of choice is savage .17 HMR with a 3-9 40 scope set up at 50 yards at 3 then at 9. Long bombs are done with the smaller center dots on the vertical line of the scope each 50 yard farther.

The boys can put the rounds of a full clip in the size of a quarter at 50 yards on 5 leaning on a table.

If you can get this picture you could have taken him with something like this. Boys have 9 rats and one mink.

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Charlie as you know I have both beavers and otters and they are a pain. Both are sneaky but I'd rather have a beaver depending on what he is doing. Otter you know he be going after the fish , so I would work on him first

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Same type of trap will get either depending on how you set it (on a trail or pond side entry point).
















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Don,
I agree with what you say about the head position in the above pic. From the original pic close up, it looks like the bottom half of the animal is it's shadow and it appears to be much higher out of the water than it actually is. I've seen beaver float on their backs in the water stripping and eating the bark off of branches...thing is, this is a big animal. I've seen quite a few otters and beaver in the past...but have never seen an otter of this size...I'm sure they are out there...just never seen one. I've seen some beaver go in excess of 40lbs.

Shooting it would be fine if I could get close enough to the critter. He's been pretty elusive since he lost 2 of his toes. The above camera shot was taken from a random pic from a ladder stand while deer hunting. I didn't even realize he was in the pic until I got home and blew it up....that explains why the pic is so grainy and degraded. I guess I'm really hoping it's not an otter, I'm probably in the same shape my buddy, Pat W. is...I may have both to contend with. Thanks, Don....I appreciate your input...

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Well, I had some success in figuring out my dilemma. As it turns out it was a beaver.



I'm not yet sure if it's the only one out there, but this appears to be the same critter that I had originally snagged by the toes in the leg hold trap last month. The pic at the beginning of this post shows (2) toes pulled off in a leg hold trap. See the photo below.



The traps are re-set. I hope this is / was my only problem. Thanks, to all who assisted me catching this rascal.


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That's awesome Charlie! Well done! So you making sausage or jerky? smile


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Congrats!!! So, what did you have to do to get it to swim through the trap?

Yep, that looks like the one that had it's toes pinched earlier. Good going.


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Congrats!!! So, what did you have to do to get it to swim through the trap?

Yep, that looks like the one that had it's toes pinched earlier. Good going.


I had recently transplanted some elephant ear plants from a nearby creek along the shoreline of my pond around Thanksgiving. I noticed a couple were pulled up and floating near a lil bare spot on the bank where it looked like something had been sliding in and out of the pond. I set that trap (and others) among the recently planted tender vegetation. The plants were right even with the trigger on the trap. I guess it was too much for the animal to pass up.


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That's awesome Charlie! Well done! So you making sausage or jerky? smile


Bill...not sure how fresh a kill it was...so, I gave it a Naval style burial in a big nearby creek. Maybe next time I grind 'n shoot some with pork for sausage...lol.


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tubguy,
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the geese. At Away With Geese we offer maintenance free solar powered flashing lights that work at night to deter geese. We are in Cincinnati, not far from you, and are a family business. With over 10,000 sold we have a 97% success rate. We guarantee satisfaction and have tons of testimonials on our page if you would like to check them out.


Are you or anyone else you know of developing something to discourage cormorants?


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