"And why shouldn't I be the one to shoot that trophy deer before the neighbors do", eh?
By the way, did you make it back out yesterday? Do any good? Not as many shots this morning as I anticipated.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
Trophy Deer ? DD1 made the comment about never seeing the biggest deer on the property, except by camera. And his comments made of how smart and nocturnal the biggest trophies are. Dave, I agree, the older are the smartest by far. And are not taken so easily. I think most are taken by accident, or the hunter just happened to be in the right spot when a girl (doe) got him in trouble. Like some of the humans I know . Dave I agree, the 5 yr old or older buck can be hard to harvest. That is the deer I am after. I have let a lot of bucks take a pass, I do not hunt for what we might consider a trophy, I hunt that elusive one. I hunt him because he is that challenge I look for, that goal that only I have set for me. Not for the wall, but for me.
Tracy
Do not judge me by the politicians in my City, State or Federal Government.
Tracy, if that elusive, wily old buck that shows up on the trail cam photos is well past his prime from a more "traditional" trophy sense, and that decline is visually apparent, would you still take him over a younger, more robust and visually pleasing specimen, while letting that more magnificent specimen walk?
Not trying to back you into a corner, just curious about what drives each of us to hunt.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
Sparkie, some people would not believe me when I say, I have let 12 points walk. Because I aged him @ 3.5 yrs. And have continued on my hunt for an 8 pointer or a 6 because of his elusiveness, his ability to outsmart us humans. I am saying, its the hunt !! If I can get this guy to 10 yds, I have done what I set out to do. It's not easy, and like esshup said here, I have had Tag soup more yr's than not.
Tracy
Do not judge me by the politicians in my City, State or Federal Government.
Tracy, I admire that philosophy. I will probably never be a proponent of trophy hunting, or at least what I perceive as being the most common form of trophy hunting, but your definition puts a different spin on things, and is food for thought.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
Sparkie, to continue this I would like to say that old bucks will remain in his core area 85% of the yr. He knows his area, his home, He will venture out at dark and will return before daylight. He knows the scents in his home area, he knows the movements, he will hunker down when needed, he will circle you and he will evade you when needed. These bucks are out there, most of us have seen them on camera, but never get to harvest them. And when u get him close, you may not get the shot because he came in where u did not expect him. I love it, and when everything is right, the weather, the wind, that is when I slip in to hunt him. That wily buck.
Tracy
Do not judge me by the politicians in my City, State or Federal Government.
When hunting for meat, and could afford to be choosy, I would tend to agree. Genetics or trophy would never enter the equation.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
Not many shots this morning for opener of firearm up here. Numbers are a tad low this year and they even cancelled an earlier doe hunt. Also have a lot of bow hunters now which runs six weeks prior to firearm.
Congrats on the bird. I love chicken fried wild turkey steak fingers.
Tracy
We do the same with pheasant breast. They are so good.
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
I've enjoyed reading all the comments about hunting the trophy or shooting to cull deer but I want to post this picture tonight and tell my story. The young man in this picture is my best friend and the beautiful young lady is his step daughter. He is 6 years younger than me, we met when I was 16 and he was 10. It's a long story about that but I will leave it at that for now. Basically I started dragging him along deer hunting and small game hunting and catfishing at night. He took to all of it and has been an avid outdoorsman since. Now he is actively getting his step daughter involved and tonight she killed her first deer. I'm so proud of him for the way he is raising this young girl that I am just bubbling inside. I hope she continues to hunt and fish and they make many more memories together.
Jeremy, if you ever happen upon this post, you make me proud, your a good man.
airborne, that sounds a lot like me and one of my Grandsons. I started taking him deer hunting with me when he was 4. We sat in a blind or just in the woods. He had his BB gun and I had a 30-06. He got to take the 1st shot. If it wasn't a clean kill, I had to finish them off. He took his first pig at 6 and his first scrub buck at 7 or 8 with his 222.
He is now 6'3" and 225 lbs; pretty good right guard but resents football getting in the way of hunting. He and his buddies would spend every minute in the woods and are pretty good outdoorsmen. One of them even broke up with a girl friend because he wanted to hunt weekends with no outside interference and she was kinda "demanding". They even resent football because it keeps them from leaving on Friday afternoon to head to my place. A normal weekend for me is 3 or 4, 16 and 17 year old, teens around and no place for me to hunt. I recently took a 16 year old girl hunting but she didn't get a shot. Of course, I made sure that my Wife was along with no boys that weekend. I'm hoping that I can make a difference in the kids lives but still remember being that age. They tell each other to never chap Mr Dave or you may not get to hunt. None of their parents hunt and can't afford a deer lease. Over the last 5 or so years, we've had lots of talks about booze, drugs, pregnancies, STD, etc whether they want to hear it or not. Of course, I generally doing all of the talking. I recently got a call to pick them up when one of them got a couple of 6 packs of beer. They had sense enough to not drive and I didn't bitch at them. Heck, I was that age once and am glad that they had sense enough to not drive.
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Awesome photo airborne! Outstanding job on the young lady's part.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
Ok guys wow what a Saturday for me and son and my dad!! Here is the story!
My Son Noah has gone hunting with me since he was about 14. His first time out ever at age 11 he shot a nice little spike. I put him on some does when he was 13 and 14. He has killed them all with one good clean shot! Never really got him on anything decent and he kinda got bored of I guess and had other stuff on his mind (Mainly Girls) lol. Well this last year he said he wanted to go hunting again with his dad. Well just so happens I'm taking my dad also! I shot 2 nice bucks last year so I am trying to just have fun and pay it forward!! Fast Forward to Saturday!
Noah and I are in a nice wooden ground blind together. I told him to get ready cause around that 8 to 830 mark is a good window! Well at 7:50 a real nice deer cut across the road at about 150 yards. Heck he didn't stop at all he just walked right on by! We both thought it was a buck but was not sure! Well here in Arkansas were right on the rut season so I thought I would try to call it back around with a doe call. We waited and nothing, so I called again, about 10 minutes later all of a sudden at 85 yards this nice 9 point steps out on the side of the road. We both had our guns up and I told Noah nice buck shooter!! By then he was starting to cross the road pretty fast! I yelled out a baaaaaaaaaa at him and he stopped right in the middle of the road with the sun shining on him broadside!! Man is was a sweet looking picture!! I wish I was videoing!! Noah took the shot and the buck tucked his tail and turned right back around and went back in where he came from. We were knuckle bumping and high fiving and he was shaking like crazy!! LOL! He had the fever afterwards!! Even I was shaking some!! We were not sure what he was but we knew he was nice!!! Well Noah tracked him and we found him about 45 yards away nice clean shot!! It could not have gone any better!! What a day and memory with his dad and grandpa!! And all the other hunters at camp! Truly priceless!!!! I think he is hooked now!! One proud dad!!!
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