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Thanks. The part that bothers me is where each one says, "Use with care and coolant." So I spend a few hundred on an aquarium and crack out the bottom cutting a hole. I want one where they take the risk of cutting the hole! I hear ya'
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Interesting..I have been trying to find a large aquarium with a bottom drain with no success. I would really like a drain with a valve where I can hook up a garden hose for draining. Here you go! Use one of these to cut a hole for a bulkhead tank fitting. http://www.glass-holes.com/Glass-Hole-Cutters_c7.htm [i][/i] Thanks. The part that bothers me is where each one says, "Use with care and coolant." So I spend a few hundred on an aquarium and crack out the bottom cutting a hole. I want one where they take the risk of cutting the hole! You can actually hire that part out. Just find someone who does this for a living and pay them.
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JKB,
After thinking about it, if I can find a tank like yours, except only 3 or 4 feet in diameter, that will serve my purpose and be a lot cheaper solution.
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Bill, They do make smaller ones for KOI shows, but the price tag is astronomical. You gotta love KOI to bite into that.
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I do love KOI! If you cut them up in the right size pieces they are excellent bait for REAL fish!
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Phil is definitely being smart on this. Why?
Because from my experience, and other's I know, the old adage -- it's not a matter of if, but when -- applies to water on the floor.
And you will kill fish. Everyone has.
Trust me I don't care how smart you or how prepared you think you are. Ask Nasa if they have a perfect record with all those brilliant engineers. Lots of parts that can fsil in even the simplest systems. Stuff happens, equipment fails, people forget, and if anything can go wrong it will. Yada, yada, yada. All you can do is try and be preemptive with back ups etc.
Your fish are a heartbeat away from as hostile an environment as outerspace is to us.
And you have to be vigilant. I've actually become so used to the sounds my tanks make (water and pumps) that I can tell something's off by the sound.
The other day I noticed the return flow into one of my tanks was significantly reduced. Turns out a combination of mulm and a crushed piece of plastic media was blocking my waterline to the side bottom of the mbbr from the pump. I have a screen to keep the media out of the return water line but this particular piece was so compressed it was able to get through and wedge there.
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Bill, They do make smaller ones for KOI shows, but the price tag is astronomical. You gotta love KOI to bite into that. I don't think they're actually any higher quality than the Intex pools either do you? I was told Intex discontinued their 10 foot pools.
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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Phil,
Then paint is for a few areas on the door frame that are exposed and getting wet at times. It is a precaution.
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Bill, They do make smaller ones for KOI shows, but the price tag is astronomical. You gotta love KOI to bite into that. I don't think they're actually any higher quality than the Intex pools either do you? I was told Intex discontinued their 10 foot pools. Not sure Cecil, I have never seen one of the KOI rigs up close. I could not find any decent prices on the 10' pools, so got the 12' instead.
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Phil,
Then paint is for a few areas on the door frame that are exposed and getting wet at times. It is a precaution.
Thought the paint may have been to enhance the lighting.
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Bill, They do make smaller ones for KOI shows, but the price tag is astronomical. You gotta love KOI to bite into that. I don't think they're actually any higher quality than the Intex pools either do you? I was told Intex discontinued their 10 foot pools. Not sure Cecil, I have never seen one of the KOI rigs up close. I could not find any decent prices on the 10' pools, so got the 12' instead. But you found some 10' foot pools for sale?
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Intex has them on their site. Another company was selling them on Amazon, then there was another brand as well. Not sure if they are still listed.
You guys know anything about lawn sprinkler valves?
I'm working out the plumbing and those are a heck of a lot cheaper than ASCO valves. Just wondering about the reliability?
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I don't know about quality today, but 20 years ago I put some in and never had any problems for over 5 years being used every day.
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Looking at how some of these work, probably only going to be able to use them on the pressure side of things for filling tanks and such, and apparently won't work as a tank drain valve. RainBird has a 3 year warranty, so I guess that's pretty good.
Irritrol has a 5 year warranty on their valves, that's even better.
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I don't worry about the warranty because it isn't worth messing with. For about $10 I can replace the valve and get it back to working.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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I was looking at warranty as this may be a good valve. For $10-$15, I wouldn't bother with warranty either.
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Meter came in today, but boss didn't fill me in until I was 42 miles away with a truck load of stuff that needed to be unloaded and stored properly. I suspect that he opened it and was playing with it a bit He opens everything I buy that I have shipped to the shop. EDIT: Not this time tho.
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Well I spent few days improving T3 and I must say it is looking good. We added three more solar panels to the electric production side and now we are making power even with full cloud cover. Also, we upgraded the first solar heater by 25%. Also, I move the new LED light to the solar power side. It runs for 14 hours as daylight and 10 hours a night as moonlight. Also, I readjusted the air going into the MBBR tank allowing for better media movement. Here is a picture of the media flowing. And of course, we are getting a little green water. Now about the fish, I had some help from a friend and we were able to seine out another 10 large fish and around 50 smaller fish to add to the system. It was work, but the weather was perfect!! Well after that, I was able to build the last "top" for the second tank and I then was able to reset the lights and set them up for best production. For the grow lights, we now have 13 hours a day of grow light and we have another hour of light from the new LED light and then we have 10 hours of Moonlight for full coverage. Here is how the lights look. While I would like to do more, we did have a lot of rain today and that ended the outdoor work on the solar system. I plan to add a second solar heater system this weekend. That is all we are doing to get ready for the winter. This either works, or it doesn't. Sure hope this works, we have put a lot into it, and I really hope it is not all for not.
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Looks good Brian.
Best of luck and hope it works out to suit you.
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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Looking really functional and efficient!!
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Looking good, Brain. Hope it works...
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Hey Highflyer!
Currently on deployment but was thinking about making one of these too for when I get home, do you have any advise for some one building a fish tote tank for the first time?
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Why yes I do.
Youtube IS your friend.
I would build a RDF filter for solids. I like the m3 media for the bio balls, but I think there is better on the market now. I like my solar heaters and I like having my igloo in the barn.
I also like to grow green water for the fish as it helps balance the water chemistry and provides an alternate food source.
The Totes are okay, but if you have the space, use a round tank(s), you will have a cleaner setup with less maintenance and you can hold more fish.
Use a center drain.
Use airlift and gravity.
Read everything you can about the Nitrogen cycle, and get a tester.
Know your limits and do not go past them unless you like killing a lot of fish.
Find a friend who has done this and learn from them. If unable to find a friend, go back to Youtube and find a virtual friend and learn form them. Then find another virtual friend and see how they do it, rinse and repeat until you find what works for you.
We are on version 3 and already we have tweaked it some. The learning curve is steep.
I figure by version 5 we should have it down pat.
Brian
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Really nice Brian.
I am curious about the green water and if it has any negative or diminishing effects on the biofilter?
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