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Tony, why are the two prongs important? Does it just mean the plant's doing well, or is that when it produces berries?
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Al, the number of prongs is a rough approximation of age. Here in Indiana, it is illegal to harvest a plant with less than 3 prongs. Usually, a ginseng plant will not bear seeds until its third season, so while not unheard of, it's just a curiosity that a plant this young would do so.
When the plant has its foliage, you count the prongs....after it's dug, you judge the age of the root by the bud scars on the rhizome. The older the better ($$), but it better have at least 4 internodes (bud scars) on the root....hefty fines if it doesn't, and proving that this was a plant that you planted from seed and was not dug wild, is very tough to do.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Thanks.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Threads like this fit the PB forum like a glove. Lots of history being lost right now, and it's nice to see posts like this.
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Nov.1st, 2014. One more pound planted. There were a total of 8 runs like this today. A wild four pronger from a few weeks back. This is what a digger wants to see, and what I hope we will have some years down the road.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Does ginseng grow in Texas or is it a northern thing? Never heard of it growing down here. Didn't even know there was a market for it
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It's primarily thought of as a northern species. It likes damp, heavily shaded, thick forests. In addition, the seeds need to go through a cold/warm/cold cycle in order to germinate. If there are parts of Texas that meet those qualifications, I don't know why it wouldn't?
Scott, yes, each 'branch' is considered a prong.
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Tony, I hear the bottom fell out of the market this year (as compared to last years prices).
What have you heard?
I've never even looked for it up here, and wouldn't know where to start looking.
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So far this year it's been a roller coaster ride as to prices. Started off pretty strong, then decreased. Lot of speculation in the market right now, supposedly due to the unrest in China, the phenomenally high prices paid last year, and the tremendous influx of new diggers fueled by the likes of "reality" television....several programs on right now claiming to show how quick and easy it is to get rich off ginseng. The market is flooded by poor quality, underage product, dug by everyone from methheads to heads of corporations. All hoping for a quick buck.
The worry in the sang community is that this will push a plant that is already listed as threatened, over the edge into endangered.
Since the US signed the CITES treaty, it is bound by the agreement. What happens from here forward is anyone's guess. If the plant can survive the onslaught of uneducated diggers, many of whom will soon tire of the work and lack of riches, we should be okay, and the prices may rebound. There's already talk of a price increase around Thanksgiving.
In the meantime, I'm documenting every step I take, including keeping all receipts and logging gps coordinates of planting sites. In case the time comes when I'm required to prove that those plants were planted by me, and are not naturally occurring. CITES....convention for international trade in endangered species of flora and fauna.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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The same unrest fears about China are driving down fur prices for the upcoming year. Lots of uncertainty there, and there's a lot of tiptoeing around until the first sale or 2 of furs.
Just like some other industries, "from cradle to grave" documentation is probably going to save some businesses, both small and large.
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The same unrest fears about China are driving down fur prices for the upcoming year. Lots of uncertainty there, and there's a lot of tiptoeing around until the first sale or 2 of furs.
Just like some other industries, "from cradle to grave" documentation is probably going to save some businesses, both small and large. Documentation provides proof, but if you can't collect money due you, it's worthless. 2015 could suck really bad in MI.
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Wild 'sang. Turning yellow, but still holding on to some berries. Makes it easy to find. Berries. Indiana law dictates that if the plant is harvested, the berries must be replanted in the near vicinity of the plant from whence they came. Three prong. This plant is legal to dig by state and federal law, but it's just not what the market wants to see right now. Leave it. A meager collection of two and three prongers.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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How can you tell how many prongs without seeing the root?
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Prongs are "branches" that come off the stem. It's all about telling the age of the root, and a three prong plant is most always at least three years old, which makes it legal. When you dig the root, there will be bud scars on the neck of the root, one for every year the plant sent up a shoot....like counting rings on a tree stump.
When you dig a three prong plant, you double check the bud scars to verify age. If it doesn't have three, you re-bury it or leave the top attached while in the woods to verify that you dug according to the book. If it has easily identifiable bud scars of three or more, you may discard the top. After planting any berries of course.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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