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#421065 - 08/15/15 05:45 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Cecil Baird1]
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Cecil you ever ship with dry ice? Or is that illegal

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#421066 - 08/15/15 06:00 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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It is legal to ship with dry ice, it just needs to be declared.

We have it on nearly every flight.
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#421067 - 08/15/15 06:01 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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Pat,

Seems I checked into it quite a while back and it was O.K. if it was under a certain weight. But it's been a while.

It's not available in my area and increases shipping costs due to the weight. For those who might not be aware it's a lot heavier than water ice for the volume. May have to reresearch it.

I was told ice cream gets delivered to goroceries stores packed with it so something else to check.


Edited by Cecil Baird1 (08/15/15 06:44 PM)
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#421068 - 08/15/15 06:02 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: highflyer]
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Originally Posted By: highflyer
It is legal to ship with dry ice, it just needs to be declared.

We have it on nearly every flight.


Yep you beat my post!
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#421083 - 08/16/15 12:04 AM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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All hogs stink...its the ones you can hardly breath near without gagging that you leave for the coyotes. Shoot them between the shoulder and ear (in the neck) and they normally are DRT. I don't normally track them in the dark. If they run, they are coyote food.

And i have never been charged...but where I hunt there is a lot of pressure on them (very close to 100% nocturnal and very skittish). I have had them next to the popup blind though...nothing between me and them other than a piece of fabric.

Sean

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#421090 - 08/16/15 09:56 AM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Boburk]
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Originally Posted By: Boburk
All hogs stink...its the ones you can hardly breath near without gagging that you leave for the coyotes. Shoot them between the shoulder and ear (in the neck) and they normally are DRT. I don't normally track them in the dark. If they run, they are coyote food.

And i have never been charged...but where I hunt there is a lot of pressure on them (very close to 100% nocturnal and very skittish). I have had them next to the popup blind though...nothing between me and them other than a piece of fabric.

Sean

Most around here don't have any smell at all. Breeding boars are rank smelling and if you boiled them in perfume it wouldn't help. It's surprising how many don't smell. Have had sows stink worse than boars.... To the coyotes and buzzards with those. Haven't had the smell test fail yet......

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#421096 - 08/16/15 01:28 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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Cecil,

Grocery stores around here sell dry ice. Its cheep. It does add some to the shipping weight, but the "insurance" it provides might be worth it.
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#421110 - 08/16/15 07:53 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Pat Williamson]
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Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson

Most around here don't have any smell at all. Breeding boars are rank smelling and if you boiled them in perfume it wouldn't help. It's surprising how many don't smell. Have had sows stink worse than boars.... To the coyotes and buzzards with those. Haven't had the smell test fail yet......

I don't think I have had a sow stink bad enough to leave behind yet...but most i have shot seem to be boars. I had 30-40 in front of me one time....shot two of them, both boars. Just my luck I guess.

There are times I can smell the rank boars nearby just riding through the woods. Smell like old piss (only way I can describe it). People think I am nuts when I say a pig is nearby.



Sean


Edited by Boburk (08/16/15 08:05 PM)

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#421112 - 08/16/15 08:20 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Bob-O]
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Originally Posted By: Bob-O
Pat, Bill and Charlie, you boys are a bit younger than I am. Therefore I will try ta explain that at a certain point in a mans life the phrase "hold my beer and watch this" brings a hint that something BAD is about to happen. Don't matter what kind of beer it is. You boys go ahead and just have a fun little threesome. I do appreciate the invitation tho.
Pat you have some good defense but I'm thinkin that given his screen name being Stickem I visualize him with a large sharpened stick tottering back and forth jabbin his stick at a big mean hog. Hold his beer and watch that.


Bob-O...I'm what you would refer to as Oilfield Trash...I've been working in the oil patch industry (domestically and internationally) for the past 36 years. Our motto has always been, "when you come across something you cant handle, you grab a bigger piece of iron"...(or stick, in this case)...Ha!

OFT Moniker...No disrespect to anyone who ever has, or is, working in the energy sector....


Edited by stickem' (08/16/15 09:19 PM)
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#421115 - 08/16/15 08:35 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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This is the way that I like to do it. When I knock a hog down, I like to cut them long ways down the backbone (freezer space permitting).....this gas smoker is 3' long x 2' wide x 4.5' tall, which will give you a size reference to this li'l hog. I heat with propane and smoke with hickory sawdust over a stainless steel plate. This li'l boar is about 2 1/2 hours into the process. He was basted with sauce and double wrapped in aluminum foil and left another 2 1/2 - 3 hrs at ~215-225 degrees. His hips and shoulder joints broke through the meat when we moved him off of the pit to serve.
Charlie



Edited by stickem' (08/16/15 08:37 PM)
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#421129 - 08/16/15 10:11 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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Nice....gas smoker must be nice.

Sean

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#421140 - 08/16/15 11:29 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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I'm what you'de refer to as oilfield trash made me laugh out loud. I gotta appreciate a dude who can crack on themselves as well as they do others. Poke on!!!
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#421143 - 08/17/15 05:17 AM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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Sean, I've smelled that odor a couple of times. Took me awhile to identify it and there's no sense in messing with the meat. It's about like trying to cook an old goat.
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#421145 - 08/17/15 06:25 AM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Boburk]
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Originally Posted By: Boburk
Nice....gas smoker must be nice.

Sean


Boburk,
Thanks...It was originally an old stainless steel drilling console that we used on the rigs offshore. The company that I was working for had new ones manufactured and was sending (9) of these to the junk pile...so I asked for 3 of them. Gutted them out, drilled a few holes, added the SS expanded metal grate, added the burner, thermometers, and burned it out thoroughly about 450 degrees for about 3 hours the first time that I fired it up. The first smoking was 140lbs or venison / pork sausage and threw in 10lbs of chicken quarters on the top rack. The expanded metal is on a hinge and can be swung down when hanging and smoking sausage. Now with the regulator on the propane bottle set, I can just fire it up, set a pan of hickory (or red oak) sawdust on top of the plate, put sausage (or whatever) on, and forget about it for a designated period of time.
Charlie


Edited by stickem' (08/17/15 06:26 AM)
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#421218 - 08/17/15 03:05 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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The "forget about it" part is what I like about the idea of a gas smoker. When doing it with charcoal and mesquite, it is a half day of checking and adjusting every 30 minutes. I do 2 hours open air, then wrap it with some beer and spices and do about another 6 hours.

Sean

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#421241 - 08/17/15 06:42 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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Originally Posted By: stickem'
Originally Posted By: Boburk
Nice....gas smoker must be nice.

Sean


Boburk,
Thanks...It was originally an old stainless steel drilling console that we used on the rigs offshore. The company that I was working for had new ones manufactured and was sending (9) of these to the junk pile...so I asked for 3 of them. Gutted them out, drilled a few holes, added the SS expanded metal grate, added the burner, thermometers, and burned it out thoroughly about 450 degrees for about 3 hours the first time that I fired it up. The first smoking was 140lbs or venison / pork sausage and threw in 10lbs of chicken quarters on the top rack. The expanded metal is on a hinge and can be swung down when hanging and smoking sausage. Now with the regulator on the propane bottle set, I can just fire it up, set a pan of hickory (or red oak) sawdust on top of the plate, put sausage (or whatever) on, and forget about it for a designated period of time.
Charlie


Very nice......good job!!!
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#421252 - 08/17/15 08:13 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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If you guys need "help" killin a hog or three, call me and I'll load a 30.06 and deep freeze in the back of my truck, then head southwest!
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#421255 - 08/17/15 08:21 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Rainman]
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Originally Posted By: Rainman
If you guys need "help" killin a hog or three, call me and I'll load a 30.06 and deep freeze in the back of my truck, then head southwest!


They just need to know not to have any exposed PVC on the pond! crazy grin
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#421259 - 08/17/15 09:00 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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#421269 - 08/17/15 10:00 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Rainman]
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Originally Posted By: Rainman
If you guys need "help" killin a hog or three, call me and I'll load a 30.06 and deep freeze in the back of my truck, then head southwest!

Wish you could pattern them critters then we could set up and take a mess of them.. It's just a hit or miss thing most of the time . If the hogs ain't bittin then we could fish


Edited by Pat Williamson (08/17/15 10:37 PM)

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#421274 - 08/17/15 10:31 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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Hogs showed up on my place 10 to 15 years ago. They are 90% nocturnal. To date, I think we have shot 4 or 5.
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#421278 - 08/17/15 10:56 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Dave Davidson1]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
Hogs showed up on my place 10 to 15 years ago. They are 90% nocturnal. To date, I think we have shot 4 or 5.


Same here Dave, always at night. FWIW - I had large sounder groups hitting my feeders up until February.....I got into them a couple of times then they disappeared. Only saw two large boars off and on on the game camera up until recently. Finally had a small sounder group come in last week.
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#421279 - 08/17/15 10:57 PM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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I know how to shoot in the dark... wink

Geez Cecil! Pictures of TJ's PVC was sent to you for replicating over 4 years ago! How long does it take for you to paint all that white?!?!?!?! Need me to check your aquaponics plumbing for adequate flow? (or hold it hostage?) grin


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#421293 - 08/18/15 05:43 AM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: Rainman]
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Originally Posted By: Rainman
I know how to shoot in the dark... wink

Geez Cecil! Pictures of TJ's PVC was sent to you for replicating over 4 years ago! How long does it take for you to paint all that white?!?!?!?! Need me to check your aquaponics plumbing for adequate flow? (or hold it hostage?) grin


grin Stay away from my PVC! grin


Edited by Cecil Baird1 (08/18/15 12:12 PM)
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#421328 - 08/18/15 11:23 AM Re: Beating the Heat in Oakwood, TX [Re: stickem']
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I think we have got a dozen or so off our place in the last year. 9 in traps and a few more shot.

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