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All data reported is entered except the HBG/BG. Up to now we haven't been recording those. Let me know if we want to add. Here's the plot of the various species we have been tracking. Following plot is LMB by owner. Mouth Gape of Several Fish Species LMB Gape by Pond Owner
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LMB 14", 2" mouth gape. This fish was 2-3" fingerling stocked last November. Caught it in main pond around 10", put it in old pond because found GSF that needed to be controlled, caught it today at 14". Guess it must like GSF. GSF 7 1/4", 1 1/8" mouth gape
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Was 65 at the surface here yesterday in a 3 acre pond.
LMB 12 5/8" 1 7/8" mouth gape
GSF 6 7/8" 7/8" GSF 6" 27/32"
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LMB 4lbs 4 ozs 19.25 inches 3.5 inch gape
Temps are still in the 70's in our ponds.
Cody Note: Yea! Thanks for remembering about the fish squeezer science corner for taking mouth gape measurements.
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Remember to keep taking some length and gape measurements of your bass this year for the forum data set. More largemouth bass gape information from 'esshup' who is thinking that the 1/3 length rule of thumb might be a bit underestimated where a LMB will eat a bluegill 1/3 the body length of the bass. IMO the 1/3 length rule is a conservative estimate and one that is not all inclusive. I think the rule applies to average maximum size BG the bass most commonly or generally eats as an optimum size of forage food.
Caught 2 LMB yesterday in TX. Remember these bass were likely prespawn egg laden fish. Fish #1. 19" long, Female. 4.21# Gape 3"x3" Rw = 108 Fish #2. 20.5" long, Female. 5.89# Gape 3.5" x 3.5" Rw = 118 FWIW, it first struck and tried to eat a 7" BG that was on the line. The BG measured 3" tall.
So, the 1/3 the length rule of thumb might be a bit under-estimated.....
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Bill, this little pound and half LMb had mouth gape of 2.5 inches.
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Did you get the total length of the LMB? We've been plotting vs TL.
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5 little LMB: length(in) horizontal gape(in) 9.75 1.5 10.5 1.5 9.75 1.5 10.25 1.6 10.75 1.75
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Largemouth gape information: 22 1/4 long, 7 1/2 tall at the belly. Mouth size: 4.25" tall by 4.0" wide gape Weight was estimated between 7-8 lbs. Standard weight for a 22.25" LMB is 6.45 lbs. Pictures of the above LMB. Cecil mounted it for the SDSU Diorama http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=420322&#Post420322
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HSB caught this morning: 17.75" Length 1.75" Gape
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Do nature a favor, spay/neuter your pets and any weird friends or relatives.
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I'll be recording stats from now on during my culling phase, so here's what I have so far.
LMB: 15", 2.5x2.25 gape, 1.6 lb 94% WR 15", 2.5x2.5" gape, 2.02 lb 119% WR 16", 3x2.75" gape, 2.0 lb, 95% WR 16.5", 3x3" gape, 2.48 lb 105% WR 16.75", 3x3" gape, 2.97 lb 120% WR 17.25", 3x2.75 gape, 3.3 lb 121% WR 17.5", 2.75x2.5 gape, 2.77 lb, 107% WR 18", 2x1.75 gape, 2.66 lb 85% WR
HSB: 18", 2"x1.85, 2.73 lb WR unknown 19", 2" gape, 3.17 lb WR unknown
Is there any information from BG or HBG that could/would be of value? I've already cleaned well over 300. Biggest one so far was 1.68 lb!
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Consistently fat lm Keith, awesome. I am jealous, my wr still bounce around too much. Cmm
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Thanks, Cim although mine bounce around too.
A few more from this morning.
LMB: 20", 3.875x3.875" gape, 4.3 lb, 100% WR 14.5", 2x2" gape, 1.94 lb, 125% WR
Keith - Still Lovin Livin https://youtu.be/o-R41Rfx0k0(a short video tribute to the PB members we met on our 5 week fishing adventure) Formerly: 2ac LMB,HSB,BG,HBG,RES
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Impressive. I've been at it 10 years and just now approaching getting 100 LMB or plus consistently.
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Looks like the largest gapes for given length have largest WR.
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Looks like the largest gapes for given length have largest WR. Can someone chart that, please? WR vs. Gape?
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I've been at it 10 years and just now approaching getting 100 LMB or plus consistently. Bing, I started feeding AM LMB food as soon as they would take it (year 2, Fall of 2013) and fed them twice a day up until this year. And every LMB and HSB I've cleaned (all the ones I've listed) had pellets in their bellies, except the 20 incher which had a BG in it. He was my "Walter" who's been laying-in-wait in a deeply submerged tree and has outsmarted me for over a year, breaking me off more times than I care to remember! https://youtu.be/j_h8C_rCbgU (my emotions were similar when I finally got him out of the tree!) I've also been removing all LMB 12-14" and under since Spring of 2015. So other than all of the other variables involved, is it the feeding program that got them there? Or, just plain dumb luck, which gets my vote . PS - thanks by the way!
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7-30-16 HSB: 18", 2x2" gape, 2.53 lb, WR unk. 17.5", 1.75"x1.75" gape, 2.62 lb, WR unk.
LMB: 18.875", 3.25x3.25" gape, 3.59 lb, 103% WR
Keith - Still Lovin Livin https://youtu.be/o-R41Rfx0k0(a short video tribute to the PB members we met on our 5 week fishing adventure) Formerly: 2ac LMB,HSB,BG,HBG,RES
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7-31-16 LMB: 14", 2.5x2.5" gape, 1.52 lb 108% WR HSB: 20", 2x1.875" gape 3.52 lb WR unk.
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Would you prefer the measurements come from personal ponds or any bass caught? I normally catch quite a few 3-4lb bass locally with a 7lber caught on a frog last week. I'll try to take some measurements including gape of the bigger ones from the small pond I manage but they aren't easy to catch.
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I fished at the small pond today but only managed to catch one little bass.
10'' length 1.5'' gape .926lbs
Will try to catch some bigger ones during the week and get measurements. I fished another local pond and caught 1 bass also. These measurements are close but not exact.
17.5'' length 3'' gape 3.85lbs
I'm sure some have seen videos of 3lb bass with 1lb bass stuffed down there throats. No limit on what they will try to eat when hungry.
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LMB: 17", 2.5x2.5" Gape, 2.93 lb, 113% WR 16", 2.75x2.75" gape, 2.07 lb, 99% WR
HSB: 18.5", 2x2" gape, 3.02 lb, WR Unk ___________________________________ 8-4-16 LMB: 13.5", 2.125" gape, 1.03 lb, 82% WR
HSB: 17.75", 1.875" gape, 2.62 lb, WR unk ___________________________________ 8-6-16 HSB: 18" 2x2" gape, 2.64 lb, WR unk ___________________________________ 8-13-16 HSB: 18", 1.75x2" gape, 2.57 lb, WR unk
LMB: 17.25" 3x3" gape, 2.62 lb, WR 100% 16.25, 2.875x2.875" gape, 2.42 lb, WR 110% 16", 3x2.75" gape, 1.71 lb, WR 81% ___________________________________ 8-14-16 HSB: 19", 1.875x1.875 gape", 2.9 lb, WR unk
___________________________________ 8-15-16 HSB: 19", 1.875x2.25" gape, 2.8 lb, WR unk ___________________________________ 8-17-16 LMB: 15", 2.5x2.25" gape, 2.66 lb, 156% WR ___________________________________ 8-19-16 HSB: 17.5", 2x2" gape, 2.79 lb, WR unk LMB: 19", 3x3.5" gape, 4.10 lb, 110% WR 16", 3x3" gape, 2.57 lb, 122% WR 17", 3x3" gape, 2.71 lb, 104% ___________________________________ 8-20-16 - 8-26-16 LMB: 16", 2.75x2.75" gape, 2.46 lb, 117% WR 14.5", 2.75x2.75" gape, 1.58 lb, 102% WR 14", 2.5x2.5" gape, 1.36 lb, 97% WR 17", 3x3" gape, 3.21 lb, 123% WR 17", 3.25x3.25 gape, 2.78 lb, 107% WR
HSB: 15.5", 1.4x1.75" gape, 2.46 lb WR unk 18.5", 2x2" gape, 3.15 lb, WR unk ____________________________________ 8-28,29-2016 LMB 17.5" 3x3" gape, 3.41 lb, 120% WR 15", 2.5x2.5" gape, 2.29lb, 135% WR ____________________________________ 9-3-16 LMB 17.5, 3.25"x3.25" gape, 2.16 lb, 76% WR (very skinny!)
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