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Originally Posted By: Bill D.
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First year for me watching a pond thru the winter. For those folks that may have never seen thick ice on a pond with aeration, the water level where the aerator sits is in the bottom of a big ice bowl with sides sloping up to the actual pond level. The bowl just keeps getting deeper and the aerator hole just keeps getting smaller as the ice thickens even more. Probably have a good 16 inches now.


Bill, if that's what it looks like then I think you are loosing water from your pond.............


I suspect you are correct. It is a water table pond.


My back three ponds did that at first but no longer do that.


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-13 here this morning. Luckily the wind isn't bad.


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If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
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First year for me watching a pond thru the winter. For those folks that may have never seen thick ice on a pond with aeration, the water level where the aerator sits is in the bottom of a big ice bowl with sides sloping up to the actual pond level. The bowl just keeps getting deeper and the aerator hole just keeps getting smaller as the ice thickens even more. Probably have a good 16 inches now.


Bill, if that's what it looks like then I think you are loosing water from your pond.............


I suspect you are correct. It is a water table pond.


My back three ponds did that at first but no longer do that.


Are those ponds water table ponds??


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Think I'll kick the well in for a couple of days, that will add about 100K gallons, and see what happens.


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Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Think I'll kick the well in for a couple of days, that will add about 100K gallons, and see what happens.


Update: Well has been running for 24 hours. Around 50K gallons added to the pond. Ice bowl shape is filled with water and water is coming out of the aerator hole and spreading on top of the ice.

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How are you getting O2 to the well water under the ice?

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My well water discharge pipe directs the water entering across the bubble stream from the aerator. The diffuser is located to keep open water over the discharge pipe as well.

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I have no understanding of those temps.


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Getting upwards of 45 days with snow pack on the ice that I cannot remove to let sun in. No hope of getting my plow to the pond to do anything about it. Hope the fish will make it! it looks like at least another 10 days likely more of below normal temperatures. Long range forecast shows another foot of snow or more at the end of this week.
This is getting hard for even a die hard upstate New Yorker. We cannot even take a walk around the property due to snow depth, and the deer are starting to show evidence of starving. They are jumping fencing and prying themselves between the house and the yew bushes to eat them.
Come on spring!

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11" was the thinnest I measured this afternoon and we are still making ice... Boys skated this afternoon even though it was 15° with a real feel of 0°..

Should have drilled a couple of holes and fished but had other irons in the fire...

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I have no understanding of those temps.


It really isn't that bad. How does that saying go, -- it's a "dry" cold -- wink

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We are driving on Bremerpond until further notice.


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Tested the ice yesterday in hopes of clearing off some to get O2 in the pond... in order from top down...
4 inches of old granular snow
2 inches of loose frozen slush
1 inch water
2 inches of frozen slush
4 inches of water or more.
Indefinite amounts of hard ice! Probably only a few inches

Needless to say I near pooped myself when drilling and layer 1 broke through to layer three. amazed at this after all of the cold weather I assumed solid, but just too much snow.

The fish will just have to suffer down in the dark.

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Minus 17 this morning. My thermometer only goes to minus 20. Thankfully, no wind.


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Minus 17 this morning. My thermometer only goes to minus 20. Thankfully, no wind.


Dang, Bill....that's quite colder than what we are used too down south. I worked in Western Siberia up near the Arctic circle back in the mid-90 's and saw some really cold weather. But, can't fathom that extreme weather on a regular basis.

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'Dang, Bill....that's quite colder than what we are used too down south. I worked in Western Siberia up near the Arctic circle back in the mid-90 's and saw some really cold weather. But, can't fathom that extreme weather on a regular basis.


Was the area you worked in where there is no day light part of the year and no darkness part of the year? I always thought it would be cool just to experience that.

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'Dang, Bill....that's quite colder than what we are used too down south. I worked in Western Siberia up near the Arctic circle back in the mid-90 's and saw some really cold weather. But, can't fathom that extreme weather on a regular basis.


Was the area you worked in where there is no day light part of the year and no darkness part of the year? I always thought it would be cool just to experience that.


Well in June, it never would get dark (nighttime), it would get dusk then daylight again...in January, it would get daylight around 9:00 a.m. and get dark about 3:30 p.m. That made for some pretty long nights up there at -38° with nothing to do in the evenings.

I even got a chance to experience the Aurora Borealis (northern lights).

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Originally Posted By: stickem'
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'Dang, Bill....that's quite colder than what we are used too down south. I worked in Western Siberia up near the Arctic circle back in the mid-90 's and saw some really cold weather. But, can't fathom that extreme weather on a regular basis.


Was the area you worked in where there is no day light part of the year and no darkness part of the year? I always thought it would be cool just to experience that.


Well in June, it never would get dark (nighttime), it would get dusk then daylight again...in January, it would get daylight around 9:00 a.m. and get dark about 3:30 p.m. That made for some pretty long nights up there at -38° with nothing to do in the evenings.

I even got a chance to experience the Aurora Borealis (northern lights).


That would be so cool! (Pun intended! grin)


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16 inches on March 7. Supposed to be warming up so that is probably about the max for this season.


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First day above freezing here since I don't even remember when. Up to 43 today! Have some water on top of the pond ice from the melting snow. Forecast is for 57 next wednesday!!!! smile

Really need some rain or good snow melt runoff. Water table has dropped 2 to 3 feet over the winter.

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Still under a couple feet of snow, but it's starting to melt.

I'll be glad when this winter passes. Just not fun anymore.

Ya think the guy upstairs could take a hint that 2 days of winter is enough for anyone wink

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The worst possible combination you can come up with is winter and left turns. Have to also make all 2 way stops into 4 way. People seem to know how to get thru those.

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Officially was ice free this morning..

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The melt is on and most of the snow is gone. Perimeter started to open up, so maybe another week? Have snow forecast for Saturday, but it's been pretty sunny.

63F yesterday and darn near turned the A/C on when I got home grin

I wonder what will be floating, or visibly dead when it opens up? Last year was mostly LMB, a few GSFx???, snapper and a pretty large CC.

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I have about of foot of crummy layer-cake to go. Edges where water runs in are melted with a lot of dead leopard frogs. A couple of live ones though...

Looks like we will get a re-freeze this week. Sooooo sick of this winter.

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The last of the ice on one pond finally melted mid-day today. The other pond cleared yesterday morning. But is supposed to go down to the low 20s tonight, with snow forecast for Thursday evening and Friday.


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