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JKB #398767 01/25/15 09:05 AM
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I think my wife ordered Netafim from Hummerts. Our tubing is re-usable pressure compensating since we run 300 foot rows. How many feet do you need? Water must be filtered to keep the emitters free of clogs.

http://www.hummert.com/_uploads/default/pdfs/p241-349.pdf

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Right now the orchard is small - 20 trees that are a mixture of semi-dwarf and standard. I'd be using well water to irrigate, but plan on filtering and making sure the pressure is correct too. I'll probably be adding another 5-7 trees next Spring too.

But, in 2016 a client is going to be planting a lot of fruit trees (60+) and he wants a drip system for them. The area that the fruit trees are going is about 70' wide by 600' long. Max run could be 300' because the piping hasn't been trenched in yet that will supply the orchard.

He really should put a drip system on the hardwood trees that were transplanted in December too, but that will take a LOT of tubing because of how they are spaced.


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Irrigating trees in a different animal. In fruit orchards, the tubing is often buried. I am not sure if pressure compensating embitters are used on small plantings because of the greater distance between plants. I would consult a pomologist at Purdue. Maybe this fellow could help?

https://ag.purdue.edu/hla/Pages/Profile.aspx?strAlias=hirst&intDirDeptID=16

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Thanks RAH. I've used the pressure compensating emitters on the fruit trees I had in So. Cal. and micro emitters on the flower beds, and the tape in the garden on the row crops.

I'll zing him a question.


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A couple other sources for drip is Farm Tek and my favorite Berry Hill Irrigation out of VA.

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I use a company called "the drip store" at http://www.dripirrigation.com.
For my orchard and blueberries, I uses one or more variable rate drippers per plant depending on the size of the plat.
http://www.dripirrigation.com/drip_irrigation_categories/97/drip_irrigation_parts/21


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With the drip irrigation, is there any merit in rigging up gravity feed for a few raised beds?

Nearest electric and well water is about 600' from my Dad's house and don't want to do that just to rip it out at a later date. Not to mention, a straight line would mean ripping out a bunch of trees. Probably would have to get a booster pump as well.

I can poke in a shallow GW well and run a generator to fill some IBC's, or whatever. It's a PITA to fill barrels up and haul water back there. I'd usually put 6 in my truck and siphon them out. That's more work than I want.

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Found this - Paste it into your browser

http://www.dripirrigation.com/drip_irrigation_chapters/9/drip_irrigation_pages/40

Find lots more by typing - gravity drip irrigation - into google

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Thanks. Just wanted to know if anyone here has actually done it and what the caveats may be. Their personal experience.

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Well, some seeds are opening up and it's only been a couple of days, so think I'm good to go with those. Wait and see how many tho.

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Ever think of horizontal boring? No ripping up of trees that way.....


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Ever think of horizontal boring? No ripping up of trees that way.....


That would be a good idea if this particular run would be a permanent installation, but it's crossing 2 properties, so if one sold, it would have to be removed.

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I think the heat mat from Menards eventually got too hot. Most of the seeds opened, then checking a couple days later, they seem to have bit the dust.

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Are you sure that they did not succumb to damping off?

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Originally Posted By: RAH
Are you sure that they did not succumb to damping off?


I had to look that up, and based on the multitude of info on the internet, could be possible.

Only thing I know is when I got home the other day, I could smell plastic. If you can smell it, it's warmer than it should be. It was quite warm and I pulled the plug.

The new mat's should be in any day now, so those will get rigged up with lighting and temp control.

I think the little mat got too hot. It's only a Chinese made resistive device that plugs into an outlet with no possible control other than unplugging it or tripping a circuit breaker, if that even happens.

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There should be a temp control

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Originally Posted By: RAH
There should be a temp control


Absolutely! How tight should I make this to cover the spectrum?

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It's possibly a Chinese plot funded by the North Koreans to disrupt US agriculture. I would throw it away!


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Originally Posted By: Bill D.
It's possibly a Chinese plot funded by the North Koreans to disrupt US agriculture. I would throw it away!


Well, it's just a resistive device with no control unless you cut the power.

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Originally Posted By: Bill D.
It's possibly a Chinese plot funded by the North Koreans to disrupt US agriculture. I would throw it away!


After closer inspection of the little mat, USA made materials assembled in Mexico. I guess we can rule that Chinese plot out, or can we? wink

The new Agritape mats came in a bit ago. Haven't had much time to play with them, but am surprised and pleased on how well they are made. I'll get pics once this is set up.

I went to our main shop to get my control box. It's a Saginaw 4'Wx2'H 2 door job. Figured I would get that assembled. Looked all over for it, where did it go? Then I looked up eek Someone put it on the top of a pallet rack! How am I supposed to get it down by myself now?, no one was around. Just have to wait till next week.

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