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george1 #397460 01/12/15 07:47 PM
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Thanks PW - Hybrid Black Crappie. They are F1 offspring of White Crappie and Black Crappie [note black stripe down back]. Few of us have stocked them based on initial reports the recruitment of F2 generation is limited in qty and size - theoretically equating into easier population management. Jury is still out - so far, seeing limited recruitment and solid growth from original fish. I may start liberal harvest and stock another couple year classes over the coming seasons...if I can get Rex up to NE.


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Most of the BCP that I stocked have the black stripe on back also. Was curious that they look very similar to mine

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Originally Posted By: teehjaeh57
Thanks Cecil - you and Bill have been good mentors - hope I can attain something close to your level someday.


I don't know nothin'. Bill's the expert.

Where is Bill anyway? I sure hope he didn't fall in. All these nice perch pictures we're posting and I haven't heard a peep out of him.

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Pure Black Crappie can have the black stripe, HBCP can also have the black stripe or lack them. Presence of black stripe does not indicate hybrid - I believe it's a recessive trait that some BCP share, pure or hybrid.


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Great pics guys, looks like everybody's having fun.


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Good day. My first CNBG of the year, and my first ever trout here. The water hit 44 degrees, and the deer were everywhere around noon. It was time to fish.





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Excellent... The fish look great Al! Was the copper sluggish at all?


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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I know.. compared to the behemoths posted by TJ, Cecil, and Bill Cody, this pitiful 8" thing doesn't even appear to be the same species. But I'm still a little pleased to have caught it. My very first YP through the ice.



And one for Yolk Sac, lest he think I have forsaken the path.



"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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I have to go out and fill an order for two large bluegills at $75 each. I should just quit taxidermy. This is more fun and faster money.

Only problem is the dog won't go in or stay in my shanty. She's terrified of it especially when I pull the top down.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Originally Posted By: sprkplug
I know.. compared to the behemoths posted by TJ, Cecil, and Bill Cody, this pitiful 8" thing doesn't even appear to be the same species. But I'm still a little pleased to have caught it. My very first YP through the ice.



And one for Yolk Sac, lest he think I have forsaken the path.




Still nice fish Tony. What's really nice about the perch is they are very cooperative under the ice. The cold water doesn't seem to phase them at all.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Tony, congrats. Firsts are great aren't they? It's the Moon. It was perfect today.

The CNBG was at least 10' deep, and bit very lightly. I'm gonna try deeper and slower for a few days and see what happens.


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Slow and low this time of year, Al...slow and low.


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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44 degress seems cold for TX ponds, I didnt think you guys got "that" cold of water. is that surface temp? might it be warmer on the bottom?

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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
I have to go out and fill an order for two large bluegills at $75 each. I should just quit taxidermy. This is more fun and faster money.



Maybe you're on to something there, Cecil?


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Originally Posted By: BobbyRice
44 degress seems cold for TX ponds, I didnt think you guys got "that" cold of water. is that surface temp? might it be warmer on the bottom?

Bobby that pond was at 34 degrees last week. It had completely iced over the day before, but that's something that happens once or twice a year.

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dang sprkplug in that one picture it almost
looks as if there is a dead white dog under the ice!



Fishing has never been about the fish....

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Originally Posted By: sprkplug
Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
I have to go out and fill an order for two large bluegills at $75 each. I should just quit taxidermy. This is more fun and faster money.



Maybe you're on to something there, Cecil?


I'm such a dork Tony. Couldn't even get a bite and moved five times! Serves me right for getting cocky. On top of that I peek out one of the peep holes of the shanty to see what the dog is barking at, and notice I put the flag up this morning upside down! If my dad was here he'd kill me! LOL

Looks like I'll have to break out the FL-8 when the new battery comes from Ebay.

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Are you sight fishing in the shanty? Wasn't sure if you used a flasher or not.

Are you under any sort of time constraint or deadline to provide those bluegills?


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Originally Posted By: sprkplug
Are you sight fishing in the shanty? Wasn't sure if you used a flasher or not.



I was fishing "naked." That is, drop the bait down the hole with a clip on weight to set the sliding knot and slide-on sponge float to fish the bait close to the bottom. Normally catch the fish within 6 to 12 inches of the bottom. With the Vex FL-8 I can at last see if anything's down there and watch my jig in relation to any fish.

i haven't been using any minnows which is very reliable for yellow perch.


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Are you under any sort of time constraint or deadline to provide those bluegills?


Not really. I have a few weeks.

The pond has been fished really hard for a two to three week period by up to six anglers at a time for three years now to harvest the fish I sell. It's possible the relased fish that didn't meet the minimum size are getting hard to catch. The seine this spring should take care of that.

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If you get in a pinch, you can try harvesting some trophy FHM from my pond. Bring the big gear though. Once they see that hole in the ice they head for the bottom! grin

Your buddy,

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Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Good day. My first CNBG of the year, and my first ever trout here. The water hit 44 degrees, and the deer were everywhere around noon. It was time to fish.





See CNBG, no concave stomach. This fish is thriving and rising fast. Well done Al...save a few for me!


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Originally Posted By: sprkplug
I know.. compared to the behemoths posted by TJ, Cecil, and Bill Cody, this pitiful 8" thing doesn't even appear to be the same species. But I'm still a little pleased to have caught it. My very first YP through the ice.



And one for Yolk Sac, lest he think I have forsaken the path.



HBG thriving here too - note no concave stomach region. I think that fish has some potential. Awesome.

YP - CONGRATS AMIGO!!! I'm ear to ear smiling. I'm guessing male, did you flip it and check urogenital? If female it should be showing a little by now? Well done...very happy.

Cody Note - I agree the 8" YP is likely a male.

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Originally Posted By: sprkplug
Are you under any sort of time constraint or deadline to provide those bluegills?


Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1

Not really. I have a few weeks.

The pond has been fished really hard for a two to three week period by up to six anglers at a time for three years now to harvest the fish I sell. It's possible the relased fish that didn't meet the minimum size are getting hard to catch. The seine this spring should take care of that.


Cecil,

I think you told me once you deliver the fish frozen. How long can you keep them in the freezer before they go bad?


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Originally Posted By: Bill D.

Originally Posted By: sprkplug
Are you under any sort of time constraint or deadline to provide those bluegills?


Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1

Not really. I have a few weeks.

The pond has been fished really hard for a two to three week period by up to six anglers at a time for three years now to harvest the fish I sell. It's possible the relased fish that didn't meet the minimum size are getting hard to catch. The seine this spring should take care of that.


Cecil,

I think you told me once you deliver the fish frozen. How long can you keep them in the freezer before they go bad?


They are shrink wrapped so pretty much indefinitely.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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