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JKB #395392 12/21/14 04:47 PM
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I love Sea Foam. Man it sure can put out a big smoke cloud out of 2 454 Crusaders (Bertram 31) that have been sitting for winter! ;-)

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esshup...use Sea Foam as a winterizing agent. Raises BTU's, lowers pour point considerably, removes carbon/varnish.....GOOD stuff! One pint to 100 gallons diesel....


Definitely Sea Foam. Works great in everything. I use it in all my small motors. It is the best fuel stabilizer I have found and I don't think they even make the claim they are a stabilizer on the label. I believe it is traditionally a marine gas additive, but a small engine repair buddy told me it is the only stabilizer he uses or recommends.

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I like using Sea Foam in gasoline, but for diesel I use Stanadyne Winter 1000 and Performance Blue Bottle. Never had a problem even in -20F temps when treating summer fuel.


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Hey Guys, I restore old classic cars and have been a mechanic all my life. Just for your info. I have used Sea foam automatic transmission treatment many times.One in particular comes to mind a 1968 mustang that had been sitting for 15 years. After I got it running It would not shift. All the check balls were stuck in the tranny. One 6$ bottle of sea foam and it started shifting and drove it all over town. My transmission guy told me it would need an overhaul. Six bucks was a pretty cheap overhaul. Merry Christmas everyone!!!


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Sea Foam, Marvel Mystery Oil, and Starbrite are my additives of choice. I replaced all the fuel hoses on my bass boat 2 years ago do to ethanol collapsing the fuel hose linings. Then I proceeded to let 20 gallons of gas set in the tanks since then. Now I have another "have to" on my to do list.


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Al, I had to replace a lot of fuel lines in the gasoline powered stuff that I have because of the ethanol.

Now I drive the 25 or so miles one way to get ethanol free gas.

I run 100LL fuel from the local airport in 2 of the 3 chainsaws, and e-free 93 octane in the one where the timing can't be adjusted.

Even so, I still use Marine grade Stabil in the gas and put in an ounce or 2 of SeaFoam per gallon as cheap insurance.


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I'm curious what the agenda is of the Saudi's flooding the market which is bringing down the price of oil. In a recent article I read they claim they have no agenda and don't plan on reducing the supply soon.

Of course saying something and what the truth is can be two different things.

All kinds of theories out there though with the foremost being the Saudi's want to break the backs of some competitors.


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They want to stop fracking cause it will bring down the cost per barrel of oil... Read that it will cost 8$ a barrel to get out... Course they won't sell for that


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Were already seeing pumpers shutting down and as long as the price hovers around $60.00 more will follow.

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I don't see why we allow these peckerwoods to dictate anything to us when we only buy 20% from the middle east. Just ain't right


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It's still dropping. Lowest price in MI is right here at $1.83.

Highest price is in Detroit, still over 3 bucks. That's a kick in the pant's to some of our fellow citizens wink

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I finally bought diesel yesterday for $2.99.9/gal.

Unfortunately, oil is not a commodity where us as the consumer can pick and choose where the product was produced, can we? I'm talking about gasoline, diesel fuel and motor oils. There is no COA on any of the labels as far as I know.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
I finally bought diesel yesterday for $2.99.9/gal.

Unfortunately, oil is not a commodity where us as the consumer can pick and choose where the product was produced, can we? I'm talking about gasoline, diesel fuel and motor oils. There is no COA on any of the labels as far as I know.


Have no clue as to where the fuel around here is coming from.

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Does anybody remember diesel being cheaper than gas back in the 60's and 70's or do I just have a bad memory?...


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I remember gas at .19.9 a gal. 5$ could fill up the tank!

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Pat,

Those were the days, I could put $2 of gas in the car and have $8 left from my $10 pay from putting up hay all day at 1 cent a bale to take my girlfriend to the movies with all the snacks we could eat!


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I remember gas at .19.9 a gal. 5$ could fill up the tank!

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Back then the stations were full service. I remember pulling in to quite a few, and then they went into self serve. Then followed the convenience store. You want it, you get it yourself.

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I remember gas at .19.9 a gal. 5$ could fill up the tank!

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Back then the stations were full service. I remember pulling in to quite a few, and then they went into self serve. That followed the convenience store. You want it, you get it yourself.


JKB,

LOL! You are so right my friend.....and they call it convenient now! Remember the guy had that little water bottle in his pocket and actually washed your windshield??


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Bill D...It was right around 2000 when diesel prices topped gasoline.....courtesy of state and federal fuel tax hikes after EPA mandated fuel mileage gains on cars hit and reduced tax revenues.



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Thanks Rex,

Please tell my wife my memory is not as bad as she says it is..... I would tell her myself but I can't remember where she is....grocery store?


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I remember gas at .19.9 a gal. 5$ could fill up the tank!

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Back then the stations were full service. I remember pulling in to quite a few, and then they went into self serve. That followed the convenience store. You want it, you get it yourself.


JKB,

LOL! You are so right my friend.....and they call it convenient now! Remember the guy had that little water bottle in his pocket and actually washed your windshield??


I remember the whole ball of wax. Checking your oil, topping off fluids, washing windows.

The last station I went to that would actually man the pump and wash your windows was on Walker Ave. in GR on the West Side, it was a Citco. Mom and Dad lived a few blocks away. Station across the street was self serve and had a convenience store.

I thought it was really convenient to be the recipient of really good service.

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I worked in the first self pump station in my town. I carried around a key to reset each pump after the customer paid me for their gas. If the customer rolled the pump to that extra half cent, it came out of my pay. Compensation by the station management was I got 10 cents for every carton of cigs I sold. Seemed everybody rolled that extra half cent!


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I guess I'm just the opposite. I'm in a hurry, and the less time I spend filling up, the better. Whoever came up with pay at the pump has my eternal gratitude.


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Dang, you're a bunch of old suckers.

OK, I worked at a Shell station and a couple more. I was the night shift. Six nights a week, 10 hours per night for $60.00 per week. Fill tanks, clean windshields, do lube jobs, repair flats and some occasional light mechanic work like tune ups and carbs. Not much of a social life at 19 YOA. I don't remember the gas price there but do remember 17.9 cents in Waco. Vagrants would sometimes come by and I would give them free coffee and buy them a candy bar. We kept a pistol around but never had a problem that called for using it.

A buck an hour was considerably more than I had made on farms and ranches.


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Rex,
That's good info... I would have "thought" it was because demand for diesel was going up due to more cars becoming diesel burning.

Pat,
I believe it is the total supply of oil on the market that is causing the reduction in oil prices and not necessarily related to how much US buys internationally.


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