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JKB #395149 12/17/14 10:30 PM
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take it for what it's worth...

FedEx (NYSE: FDX) — Fuel costs are one of the biggest expenses
for this global shipper, meaning it should get a huge profit boost
this holiday quarter from lower oil prices.


Fishing has never been about the fish....

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Since driving is so much of my business, I would welcome $1.00/gallon gasoline and diesel. Since diesel is used to move every consumable that we use, I think that lower shipping costs (or at least lower household transportation costs) would keep $$ in peoples pockets. They would have that $$ to spend on other things, and I think our economy would show an uptick.

If the mid-east oil runs out one of these days, our "home" oil will still be there.

I know, I know, I don't work in the petrolium or drilling industry.....


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Originally Posted By: Zep
take it for what it's worth...

FedEx (NYSE: FDX) — Fuel costs are one of the biggest expenses
for this global shipper, meaning it should get a huge profit boost
this holiday quarter from lower oil prices.


UPS is still adding fuel surcharges although now that I'm a weekly shipper I get a substantial discount.

They say the airlines are saving a bundle too but ticket prices won't go down. But then there really are only a handful of airlines now (don't be fooled by the different names) so there just isn't that much competition anymore.

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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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$1.99 for gas all over Dallas-Fort Worth right now. Diesel is at $2.89 and should drop another $.20-.30 in the next few weeks.


My family has a Charter Bus company and this price drop is saving us around $4000/week. We buy bulk fuel which already saves us $.60 if we bought it at the corner gas station and about a $1 if we buy it at a truck stop.

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Make hay while the sun shines Chris! As we all know this won't last forever.

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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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I'm loving it. However, when the oil companies start cutting drilling budgets and laying off workers, which they are now doing, the economy isn't going to like it as well.


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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
I'm loving it. However, when the oil companies start cutting drilling budgets and laying off workers, which they are now doing, the economy isn't going to like it as well.


Not to mention all the recently drilled private wells that will shut down due to operating costs soon exceeding production income....



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Or the shale oil up north.

Putin's not happy. His economy's tanking.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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There's pros and cons to everything....this can't last but I sure did enjoy filling up the truck for 2.13 a gallon. that's almost half of what it peaked at here in IL a few years back.


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$1.93 here in Houston today. NOT looking forward to this.

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I feel for those who live in areas of the country that might be negatively impacted by lower fuel prices, but I have to admit that I'm liking it here, myself.

It's probably short-lived anyway. All it appears to take anymore, is one hurricane, one oil refinery snafu, one oil tanker aground. Or the mere threat of new upheaval in the mideast. There's always a disaster waiting in the wings for just such occasions as this.


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I've noticed several new gas storage tanks popping up on peoples property around my neck of the woods, was wondering how long it would take before that started happening. I figure about a year from now I'll start seeing a lot of them for sale.

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$1.96 at the station nearest my place on the way home. $2.14 at a place about a mile away, and they didn't seem to have any cars at the pump's. It's a zoo at these other places.

Don't know how low it will go or how long it will last, but one gal this morning said she wasn't going to risk it and finally filled her tank up. She said, usually she just put's in enough to get where she has to go for a few days.

Dual tanks on my truck would be kinda nice right now.

Since I started this thread, it cost me, well the boss, 35 bucks less to fill my tank, and if I'm just buzzing around locally, it's good for about 2 weeks.

I think this would be a good time for him to reconsider his profit sharing plan wink

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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
I'm loving it. However, when the oil companies start cutting drilling budgets and laying off workers, which they are now doing, the economy isn't going to like it as well.


On a similar note. I wonder what's happening with a project at a drill pipe mill in Hopkinsville. (they make oil well drilling pipe for BP) I'm supposed to go down there and make some magic happen, but haven't heard a peep in a couple months now, and I hope I don't!

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Originally Posted By: fishtruck
$1.93 here in Houston today. NOT looking forward to this.

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What's the NOT part of this?

EDIT: Watched a story by Katie Couric, now I get it.

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Dropping almost everyday here. $2.30 today. 1/4 tank still in the truck. Hmmmm....will wait till next week to fill'er up!


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I really want to fill the tanks with diesel, but don't want to fill 'em with winterized fuel. I hope the prices stay low at least until the end of April.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
I really want to fill the tanks with diesel, but don't want to fill 'em with winterized fuel. I hope the prices stay low at least until the end of April.


I didn't know they had winterized diesel. Does that lower the quality or something?

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It lowers the pour point, and reduces the chance of the fuel "gelling" in cold weather.

But at the same time it reduces the BTU's of a gallon of diesel, effectively dropping MPG. Between putting on snow tires on all 4 corners, and using "winter" diesel, I will see a 10%-15% drop in fuel mileage, maybe a bit more if it's sloppy out. Fuel alone will drop economy approximately 7% to 10%, depending on the fuel.

If I run summer fuel in the winter, I will treat it myself. I think the additives that I use are more expensive per gallon than what the refinery does to make winterized fuel, but I don't lose the mileage.


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A tank full of gelled up diesel makes for a very long, miserable day.


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Originally Posted By: sprkplug
A tank full of gelled up diesel makes for a very long, miserable day.


Never had a problem with my tractor, but if it jell's up, is it possible to encase it in some heat?

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Originally Posted By: esshup
It lowers the pour point, and reduces the chance of the fuel "gelling" in cold weather.


Just started laundry a few minutes ago. Detergent was in my truck for a few days and a tad cold. Went to pour it into the washing machine and it came out in these jelled lumps. Not frozen at all, but not really fluid either.

Ummm... these lumps were a tad larger than the recommended cap full. Hope I don't get a call wink

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Originally Posted By: JKB


Never had a problem with my tractor, but if it jell's up, is it possible to encase it in some heat?


Yes. Tarp it, and add supplemental, external heat.

Try not to melt the tarp. grin


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Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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Originally Posted By: sprkplug
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Never had a problem with my tractor, but if it jell's up, is it possible to encase it in some heat?


Yes. Tarp it, and add supplemental, external heat.

Try not to melt the tarp. grin


I would just park it inside as it is now, but no heat. I think the propane heater I have would do the trick.

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esshup...use Sea Foam as a winterizing agent. Raises BTU's, lowers pour point considerably, removes carbon/varnish.....GOOD stuff! One pint to 100 gallons diesel....



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