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Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:"
"She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."
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Without DNA testing I'd have to wonder if it was a pure Lepomis cyanellus. Not saying it's not but...
Kudos to the angler. Not trying to steal anyone's thunder though.
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I saw this over at BBG. I realize that a biologist certified it, and there is certainly a lot of GSF showing in the photo. But I can't help thinking that there are some BG genes in the lineage, somewhere.
Cecil beat me to it!
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Glad I'm not the only one.
Unfortunately being a biologist doesn't mean they are flawless in identification of sunfish hybrids. Hybrids can be really tricky as we all know.
I had two biologists disagree on whether a a fish was a pumpkinseed or a hybrid pumpkinseed.
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Cecil, as I was reading, I instantly thought of you and yer 2lb 13 oz YP. Guess the tarheels don't mind pond caught records.
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From even my limited experience and knowledge with HBG, I agree 100% there appears to be BG genetics - my bet is not 100% GSF. Amazing how that could have escaped the attention of a professional fisheries biologist.
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Either way, congrats to the young lady that caught it. Very nice fish.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Either way, congrats to the young lady that caught it. Very nice fish. Ditto.
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Cecil, as I was reading, I instantly thought of you and yer 2lb 13 oz YP. Guess the tarheels don't mind pond caught records. Bob, Indiana actually has about a dozen records that come out of ponds or private waters. The state's contention was my fsh had an unfair advantage because it was fed commercial feed. I wish growing record fish was as easy as feeding them! I haven't grown a 16 inch perch since that only one in 2005!
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I agree the new NC GSF record does not have the features of a true GSF. If the "fish biologist" had the 'new record' and a true GSF side by side he would have easily seen the difference between the two fish. I have to give him credit that he did recognize it was not a bluegill.
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"I wish growing record fish was as easy as feeding them! I haven't grown a 16 inch pech since that only one in 2005!"
Slacker!!!
No wonder Ayda had so much trouble hookin those bait stealers.
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"I wish growing record fish was as easy as feeding them! I haven't grown a 16 inch pech since that only one in 2005!"
Slacker!!!
No wonder Ayda had so much trouble hookin those bait stealers.
I read a study that said bad fishing skills is an inherited thing. 
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16" YP...the only guys I know [or have ever read about] who have achieved this miraculous feat in the world are Cecil and Bill. We are in the presence of greatness - gives me something to shoot for one day. If I hit 14.5" I'd be happy to call it a done deal!
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"I read a study that said bad fishing skills is an inherited thing".
I want proof and credits.
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"I read a study that said bad fishing skills is an inherited thing".
I want proof and credits.
Who needs proof? I saw it with my own eyes.
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16" YP...the only guys I know [or have ever read about] who have achieved this miraculous feat in the world are Cecil and Bill. We are in the presence of greatness - gives me something to shoot for one day. If I hit 14.5" I'd be happy to call it a done deal! Bill has produced a 16 inch perch? Didn't happen unless I see a picture. Update:
Bill sent me a picture via email. Bill has always been truthful to me and others so there was no doubt it was true. Just never saw the picture for some reason. I like to rib him a little too.
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