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Is there anywhere that sells them?
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Mother nature is about the only one where bluntnose minnows are commonly available. I'm not even sure bluntnose are present in NC?
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The only native minnows here are creek sicker chubs and mosquito fish
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Not even sure a horse sucker is a minnow but great bait.
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But like my paddlefish, the bluntnose could cross state lines?
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Ok, are you kidding? This is the list of north carolina freshwater fishes. Musquitofish aren't even Minnows, family cyprinidae.
SCIENTIFIC_NAME ............... COMMON_NAME Acipenser brevirostrum ........ Shortnose Sturgeon Acipenser fulvescens ........... Lake Sturgeon Acipenser oxyrinchus .......... Atlantic Sturgeon Ambloplites cavifrons ........... Roanoke Bass Aplodinotus grunniens ......... Freshwater Drum Carpiodes carpio ................. River Carpsucker Carpiodes cyprinus ............. Quillback Carpiodes sp. cf. cyprinus .... a carpsucker Carpiodes sp. cf. velifer ....... Atlantic Highfin Carpsucker Clinostomus sp. 1 ................ Smoky Dace Cottus caeruleomentum ......... Blue Ridge Sculpin Cottus carolinae .................... Banded Sculpin Cyprinella labrosa ................ Thicklip Chub Cyprinella sp. 1 ..................... Thinlip Chub Cyprinella spiloptera ............. Spotfin Shiner Cyprinella zanema ................. Santee Chub Elassoma boehlkei ............... Carolina Pygmy Sunfish Elassoma evergladei .............. Everglades Pygmy Sunfish Enneacanthus chaetodon ........ Blackbanded Sunfish Enneacanthus obesus ............ Banded Sunfish Erimonax monachus ............... Spotfin Chub Erimystax insignis eristigma ... Southern Blotched Chub Etheostoma acuticeps .......... Sharphead Darter Etheostoma collis .................. Carolina Darter Etheostoma gutselli ............. Tuckasegee Darter Etheostoma inscriptum ......... Turquoise Darter Etheostoma jessiae .............. Blueside Darter Etheostoma kanawhae ........... Kanawha Darter Etheostoma mariae ............... Pinewoods Darter Etheostoma perlongum .......... Waccamaw Darter Etheostoma podostemone ........ Riverweed Darter Etheostoma rufilineatum ......... Redline Darter Etheostoma simoterum .......... Tennessee Snubnose Darter Etheostoma thalassinum ........ Seagreen Darter Etheostoma vitreum .............. Glassy Darter Etheostoma vulneratum ......... Wounded Darter Exoglossum laurae ............... Tonguetied Minnow Exoglossum maxillingua ........ Cutlip Minnow Fundulus cf. diaphanus ........ Lake Phelps Killifish Fundulus chrysotus .............. Golden Topminnow Fundulus confluentus ............ Marsh Killifish Fundulus luciae ................... Spotfin Killifish Fundulus waccamensis .......... Waccamaw Killifish Heterandria formosa ............ Least Killifish Hiodon tergisus ..................... Mooneye Hybopsis rubrifrons .............. Rosyface Chub Hypentelium roanokense ........ Roanoke Hog Sucker Ichthyomyzon bdellium ......... Ohio Lamprey Ictiobus bubalus .................. Smallmouth Buffalo Ictiobus niger ....................... Black Buffalo Lampetra aepyptera ............ Least Brook Lamprey Lampetra appendix ............. American Brook Lamprey Lepomis punctatus ............. Spotted Sunfish Luxilus chrysocephalus ........ Striped Shiner Lythrurus matutinus ............. Pinewoods Shiner Menidia extensa .................. Waccamaw Silverside Micropterus coosae .............. Redeye Bass Moxostoma ariommum ............ Bigeye Jumprock Moxostoma breviceps ........... Smallmouth Redhorse Moxostoma carinatum ........... River Redhorse Moxostoma robustum ............ Robust Redhorse Moxostoma sp. 2 .................. Sicklefin Redhorse Moxostoma sp. 3 ................. Carolina Redhorse Nocomis platyrhynchus ......... Bigmouth Chub Notropis bifrenatus ............. Bridle Shiner Notropis chalybaeus ........... Ironcolor Shiner Notropis lutipinnis .............. Yellowfin Shiner Notropis maculatus ............ Taillight Shiner Notropis mekistocholas ........ Cape Fear Shiner Notropis micropteryx .......... Highland Shiner Notropis photogenis ........... Silver Shiner Notropis rubricroceus ......... Saffron Shiner Notropis scabriceps ........... New River Shiner Notropis sp. 1 ................... Kanawha Rosyface Shiner Notropis volucellus ........... Mimic Shiner Noturus eleutherus ............ Mountain Madtom Noturus flavus ................... Stonecat Noturus furiosus .............. Carolina Madtom Noturus gilberti ................ Orangefin Madtom Noturus sp. 2 .................... Broadtail Madtom Percina aurantiaca ............ Tangerine Darter Percina burtoni .................. Blotchside Logperch Percina caprodes ............... Logperch Percina gymnocephala .......... Appalachia Darter Percina nigrofasciata .......... Blackbanded Darter Percina oxyrhynchus ........... Sharpnose Darter Percina rex ......................... Roanoke Logperch Percina squamata ............... Olive Darter Percina williamsi ................. Sickle Darter Phenacobius crassilabrum ... Fatlips Minnow Phenacobius teretulus ......... Kanawha Minnow Polyodon spathula ............. Paddlefish Sander canadensis ............. Sauger Semotilus lumbee .............. Sandhills Chub Thoburnia hamiltoni ........... Rustyside Sucker
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The only minnows near where I live in the mountains. I would consider mosquitofish minnows as they stay under a inch and a half.
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what drainage are you in?
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The Cape Fear shinner is endangered and in the Cape Fear river basin only
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3 ponds mountains of NC. One 5 acre and two 1/4 acre ponds. SMB Redbreast sunfish LMB YP CC brook trout WE and warmouth perch
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Many of those species are on the NC endangered list.
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3 ponds mountains of NC. One 5 acre and two 1/4 acre ponds. SMB Redbreast sunfish LMB YP CC brook trout WE and warmouth perch
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Do spotfin shinner eat fish eggs like golden shinner
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I will use spotfin shinner if they are good forage.
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He's a busy guy with his LEO job and two young kids at home. Try sending him a PM (personal message) or look at his profile, he might have his e-mail addy listed there.
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Try Jonah's Aquarium. It's on the web, you'd only need a few to build a population in a predator free pond.
Or make a trip to Nashville.
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All shiners and most minnows will eat fish eggs when eggs are available.
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All shiners and most minnows will eat fish eggs when eggs are available. As will Bluegills.
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Will it hurt recruitment?
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It will impact recruitment but so will a lot of other things. Degree of impact will depend on goals for the new crop are and amount of recruitment you want. If you are not in bait production the impact will be very acceptable- reasonable. Type of habitat will even affect recruitment. Crayfish will eat fish eggs and some predatory insect larvae will eat fry.
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3 ponds mountains of NC. One 5 acre and two 1/4 acre ponds. SMB Redbreast sunfish LMB YP CC brook trout WE and warmouth perch
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