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Jokar #380954 06/30/14 01:20 PM
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Ouch! That pump is ok but not sure if its worth all that. I hope it works well for you Jay! It should at the depth you want to put it. I would sure figure out how to repair them though at those prices!!

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Originally Posted By: Jay123
Well the pump came today! No thanks to UPS!!!!
Purchase price 120
Shipping 40
Converted to Canadian dollars 180
UPS blood sucker idiots 62.67 brokerage?!?!? What the heck is that about???

So a 120 pump costs me 260?

Anyway, can't wait to get this system hooked up water is getting pretty warm in the pond.



Yeah, USPS is almost 60 bucks to shoot the fusers across the bridge. No need to worry tho, I have piles of spare change laying around for such purposes.

They will be heading out this Wednesday, and I tossed in a few packs of Stubby Steve's to fill the voids in the box.

I've always been screwed getting stuff out of Canada, never getting it in.

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PM me your email so I can shoot you a bank deposit! I am pumped to get thisall set up. I was out in the pond today and noticed my new sunfish have been preparing beds! Never heard of stubby Steve's but I just checked there website, fishing bait! Haha awesome.

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I thought all Canadians kept a mailbox across the border for just this purpose. Then take a Sunday afternoon drive to fetch it, but only after stopping in Niagara Falls to win gas money on the slots. Gotta get with the program!

PS: If there's any border patrol/customs folks lurking here, I'm just joshing...sorta.

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Haha so an update on that, since I missed the UPS guy and just got the notice and bill on my door I was required to attend the local UPS store and pay them. I did a little research because I was frustrated, found out that I could tell UPS to shove it.

I called them and told them I didn't give my consent for them to act as a broker for me. They had to reverse the 65.00 fee. I attended the customs office today (since I'm off with ankle surgery I have some free time) and filled out a B15 self declaration form. I then paid the tax (18.00) and faxed the form back to UPS.

Now UPS has to re deliver the pump within 48 hours with no additional fees. All in all it only saved me 45 bucks (minus the gas to drive 20 minutes), but its nice to know there's a way around UPS crazy fees. If you don't mind wasting an hour of your time. Also might add that the customs officer wasn't thrilled I was exercising this option. He was very ignorant, and told me if I want to get around the fees I should just buy everything in Canada. Guess he hasn't realized Canada doesn't offer the same products that USA does... but maybe he was having a bad day.

As for the mail box in the states, my friends brother lives just across in Watertown NY, I just hate to bother him often, and I just had a tractor part sent there last month so I didn't want to push my favors.

On another note, I see sunfish making nests all over already and I only put them in a week or so ago!!! Excited!!

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Hey Jason,

Fusers are probably at the border by now. Went USPS Priority International and I filled out the customs stuff as a gift.

Man, you guy's are getting as bad as sending something to England. Let me know when it shows up!

There is no tracking once a package crosses the border and I have it return to sender if something goes wrong.

Hopefully you will see it soon and hope you don't have to pay anything extra on your end. It sounded like USPS covered those fees in the price when I sent it out.

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The diffusers must have got stopped by some pesky border guys! Waiting for the day I come home and the USPS note is on my door lol box is all built for the ecoplus motor and everything is set up. Heavy rains here so I think there should be lots of DO. Water is crawling with minnows!

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They said 6-10 days when I sent them out from the USPS in Spring Lake, MI. One day to get to the border from here, then it's all handled by your people on that end, so don't ship live fish laugh

I actually sent an item out once to someone that's only about 50 or so miles from me on FedEx and they needed it the next day. Well, this had to go on a Jet and routed thru a terminal/processing center that was quite a bit away. Then shoved on another Jet to another center in GR, then tossed on a truck to it's destination and they had it on schedule.

I asked the gal when I dropped the package off if they just couldn't put it on one of the many trucks about for local delivery. She kinda said that we need to burn Jet Fuel wink

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Bahaha that's to funny. Well no rush here just keeping you updated I'll write when its here!

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Well look what came today!!!! Can't wait to get the air line and hook this baby up! I finished the box to house the motor today.

Question, Is it really worth getting the weighted line? I only need 50 feet and the price difference is 10$ vs 120$

I was thinking I would bury it the 10 feet on land and then weight it down in the water with some scrap Steel.


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I thought the same as you. After 2 years I bought the weighted line for in the pond and wondered why I was so stupid in the beginning........


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Hrmmm... With testimony like that I guess I'd be stupid not to go for it. Are the pretty much all the same? I'm just trying to find a place in Canada to avoid all the extra fees.

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Originally Posted By: Jay123
Well look what came today!!!! Can't wait to get the air line and hook this baby up! I finished the box to house the motor today.

Question, Is it really worth getting the weighted line? I only need 50 feet and the price difference is 10$ vs 120$

I was thinking I would bury it the 10 feet on land and then weight it down in the water with some scrap Steel.


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Glad you got them!


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Sure I can't send u something in return???

PS thanks for the bait, never seen them before. Going to take the kayak out tomorrow and try it out!

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Sorry to spam this post but with these diffusers should I use 1\2 inch or 3\8 line?

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Originally Posted By: Jay123
Sure I can't send u something in return???

PS thanks for the bait, never seen them before. Going to take the kayak out tomorrow and try it out!


Don't worry about it. It's a gift.

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Thanks again JKB. Next time I'm in Michigan I'll bring you some beer haha. Its only about 7 hours to the border from here lol.

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I'd go with schedule 80 for your manifold there at your diffuser that irrigation line will bow and make problems

Unless your planning on putting them in a poured concrete base for weight and stability

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I was going to use 2 inch angle iron to make a cradle box then zip tie it to it. Then add some flat bar underneath for more weight. It will be all welded up. You think that will work OK? Or should I pour concrete. Just have some scrap steel laying around so thought it would work.

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Originally Posted By: esshup
I thought the same as you. After 2 years I bought the weighted line for in the pond and wondered why I was so stupid in the beginning........


I agree! You only buy it once, get the weighted line. It's easier to pull up when you need to and less to get snagged on.


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Done. Just ordered 50 feet from home depot of all places. Free shipping. Total cost 107$

If its not what I wanted I can get full return.

I went with the half inch. It said there was less psi loss due to friction. Wasn't much more compared to 3/8.

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Home Depot carries floats for docks and dock hardware too, I bought both from them. You can't beat the free shipping especially on those heavy or bulky items!


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I wish I posted this sooner, you can get almost 100' here for what you paid for 50. I bought my tubing here.

http://www.cleanponds.com/product_info.php?products_id=144

You may be able to cancel your order if you act quickly (and want to).


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Originally Posted By: loretta
I wish I posted this sooner, you can get almost 100' here for what you paid for 50. I bought my tubing here.

http://www.cleanponds.com/product_info.php?products_id=144

You may be able to cancel your order if you act quickly (and want to).


The "over the border" shipping might bring the price up over what he can get it for up there.....

I'd make little risers to get the diffusers about 10"-12" up and off the pond bottom. Also, do a test with them in shallow enough water so you can see the diffusers. Just to check to see if you have enough weight to hold them down once they are full of air..... The Vertex diffuser box holds close to 50# of pea gravel.......

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Originally Posted By: esshup
Originally Posted By: loretta
I wish I posted this sooner, you can get almost 100' here for what you paid for 50. I bought my tubing here.

http://www.cleanponds.com/product_info.php?products_id=144

You may be able to cancel your order if you act quickly (and want to).


The "over the border" shipping might bring the price up over what he can get it for up there.....


That could be a chunk for anything with weight and bulk. I checked out shipping options for the fusers...

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