Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Shotgun01, Dan H, Stipker, LunkerHunt23, Jeanjules
18,451 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,902
Posts557,116
Members18,452
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,420
ewest 21,475
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,112
Who's Online Now
2 members (Dave Davidson1, jpsdad), 719 guests, and 204 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#3747 04/05/06 08:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 34
O
OKIE Offline OP
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
O
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 34
I had someone ask me if I had heard of some people using white lime as opposed to betonite. They had someone tell them it was cheaper and worked just as well? Has anyone heard something like this?
The pond owner is in the hill country of Texas.
Trying to give him some feedback.
Thanks for your insight!

#3748 05/09/06 02:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 34
O
OKIE Offline OP
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
O
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 34
No Response? Any Thoughts............

#3749 05/09/06 04:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,075
M
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
M
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,075
Okie,

Heck, I'll respond...maybe help get a discussion going.

I assume you are talking about using "white lime" to repair pond leaks?

Someone quoted a source many months ago that said ag. lime would also fix pond leaks. I can say ag. lime, at least in the composition we get it for pasture treatments, would not be a choice I would make for pond leak repairs. It wouldn't stop any kind of leak.

White lime may be a different matter, especially if it were to contain large amounts of clay. Can you tell us more about the composition of white lime and if it does contain clay particles?

#3750 05/09/06 04:29 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,939
Likes: 268
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,939
Likes: 268
Any of y'all got a definition of white lime for us Yankees?


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
#3751 05/09/06 04:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 627
B
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 627
Can't be hydrated lime, never makes it to the bottom of the pond

#3752 05/09/06 05:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,075
M
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
M
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,075
Come to think of it Theo, I haven't ever seen any lime other than white...but I have lead a sheltered life. \:\)

#3753 05/09/06 08:27 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,939
Likes: 268
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,939
Likes: 268
In my experience hydrated lime is white, ag lime is gray, and key lime is light green - and my favorite of the three.


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
#3754 05/10/06 12:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,261
D
Ambassador
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Lunker
D
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,261
 Quote:
Originally posted by OKIE:
..... They had someone tell them it was cheaper and worked just as well? .......The pond owner is in the hill country of Texas.
Hey okie, I know nothing of white lime, but do know a little about clays. And I hope you dont mind my opinion. If a local clay is available, I would consider that the best choice. I understand there are pretty good bentonite deposits in TX, I am not so lucky in CA. All ponds leak, its just a question of how fast. Has to do with the hydraulic pressure as related to the permeability and porosity of materials used to seal water in. There are a lot of clay types and all have swelling properties, bentonite being the greatest sweller of all. I used a kaolinite clay locally available here in NorCal, Not a great sweller, but we dozed it in w/ native clay loam soil from property and it has worked awesome. IMHO, if your feller is in TX, tell him to save his money, and get the bentonite. Can be applied in bulk, powder, or pellet, we use it to plug boreholes on drilling jobs. He might also look to see if there's a cheaper type clay being mined in his area (i.e. a kaolinite or montmorillanite for ex.)

I havent seen anybody comment on how the white lime could affect the pH? Could be issues there as well?


GSF are people too!

#3755 05/10/06 06:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,025
Likes: 1
B
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
B
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,025
Likes: 1
I dont think anyone knows what white lime is. Okie, I wonder if the person could ask his/her source what is this white lime they are referring to.


#3756 05/11/06 11:47 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 121
T
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
T
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 121
Are you sure they weren't talking about soada ash? It's typically used on certain types of clays to help disperse clumps which form naturally in the soil, making them form a better seal. This has to be done during construction, when the ash is disked into the soil. Just a thought.

#3757 05/11/06 11:50 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 121
T
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
T
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 121
Apparently 'white lime' or 'hydrated lime'is hydrated soda ash. Anyone concurr?

#3758 05/17/06 10:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 34
O
OKIE Offline OP
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
O
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 34
Thanks for the feedback. Honestly it is a friend of mine who has just bought a piece of land in the hill country and is planning a new pond.
I had not heard of white lime either but figured it was probably just another thing I need to get educated about. I will try and get more specific details and let you know.
He has checked into the betonite and knows it is not too cheap, of course if it works the first time, the price if right.
Thanks for the response!


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
cro, HC1968
Recent Posts
Relative weight charts in Excel ? Calculations?
by esshup - 03/29/24 01:06 AM
pond experience needed
by esshup - 03/29/24 12:45 AM
New pond middle TN: establishing food chain?
by Bill Cody - 03/28/24 07:57 PM
Happy Birthday Bob Lusk!!
by FireIsHot - 03/28/24 07:33 PM
Working on a .5acre disaster, I mean pond.
by PRCS - 03/28/24 06:39 PM
Fungus infection on fish
by nvcdl - 03/28/24 06:07 PM
Can anyone ID these minnows?
by Dylanfrely - 03/28/24 05:43 PM
1 year after stocking question
by esshup - 03/28/24 04:48 PM
Yellow Perch Spawn 2024
by H20fwler - 03/28/24 04:29 PM
New 2 acre pond stocking plan
by LANGSTER - 03/28/24 03:49 PM
Paper-shell crayfish and Japanese snails
by esshup - 03/28/24 10:39 AM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5