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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
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[quote=highflyer] Also wondering why more effort doesn't go into getting after the folks that do this. I guess most are off shore and hard to find.


I'm not singling out any administration or poltiical persuasion so I hope this doesn't sound political (this goes back a ways with all admins and congress critters regardless of party), but if our government made world policeman less of a priority, and us at home more a priority, it would be amazing what they could do. I believe what little has been done is due to the congress critters having issues themselves with identity theft.

Mods if this is regarded political please feel free to delete.

Cecil, I agree 100%


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Al, I just checked the business account (Hoosier Pond Pros) and from what I can see, once the credit card goes thru, the data is gone. To issue a refund (I've had people order aquamax fish food and NOT read the "pick up only or call for a shipping rate quote") I just write a check and mail it....


Scott as a vender, that sounds correct.

The store cards are the ones that worry me. They never delete your data in hopes that you'll change your mind, and reopen the account. You should always request a hard close.


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Cecil, delete it? Hell, I agree with you. I could go further but it would damn sure get political regarding both parties of Congress and lots of guv "officials".


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Scott, as a vendor, that sounds correct.


I just send Scott USPS money orders, as most else.






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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
I had a guy from California I believe want me to seen him a bunch of trout for a barbecue after he accessed my website (down at the moment). I said they start at $40.00 a piece (this was a few years ago my prices have gone up), and were for taxidermy purposes. Said that was fine. WTH!?


O.K. As soon as the funds clear I'll be putting them in FedEx would have been my answer.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
I had a guy from California I believe want me to seen him a bunch of trout for a barbecue after he accessed my website (down at the moment). I said they start at $40.00 a piece (this was a few years ago my prices have gone up), and were for taxidermy purposes. Said that was fine. WTH!?


O.K. As soon as the funds clear I'll be putting them in FedEx would have been my answer.


What if he sent the money and turned out to be effected by Alheimers and I got the wrath of his family. grin


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Dave, be sure fill out an FTC form at www.IC3.gov .... contact the Social Security admin at 1-800-269-0271 in case they work under your SSN and rip off an employer ...and let your health Insurance provider know, as many now get free health care on your plan and you will possibly get denied due to conflicting medical histories/procedures.

There really is not much limit to how an Identity thief can use the stolen info to screw us.

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I saw on TV that our credit card system can be made a lot safer but not 100% so by adopting the the European system but there was resistance by banks, retailers, etc. because of the change over costs.


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Not until it costs the banks more for the ID theft than the changeover will they do anything about it. :-(. No skin off their back leaving our bare butts in the breeze.

You guys scared me into submission and went through all of the effort in the past two days to protect our ID and check statuses. Looks clean right now... If only I could get my SSN converted to something new so all records of it would be disconnected (i.e. school records, old health insurance, etc)

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Originally Posted By: liquidsquid
Not until it costs the banks more for the ID theft than the changeover will they do anything about it. :-(. No skin off their back leaving our bare butts in the breeze.

You guys scared me into submission and went through all of the effort in the past two days to protect our ID and check statuses. Looks clean right now... If only I could get my SSN converted to something new so all records of it would be disconnected (i.e. school records, old health insurance, etc)


Liquid, you CAN get your SSN changed by calling the SSA at 1-800-269-0271...However, I don't know if you have to document being a victim of identity theft for that to be done.



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When Target got hacked they got Victoria's password for the Target account and her email address. Her password for her email was the same, so they got access to all of her emails. Once they had access to all of her emails, they knew everywhere she shopped on line. They also knew the password she used most often. Then the fun started for them.

We actually have an address where everything which was bought was shipped. It was San Diego, otherwise I would have visited the 'victim'. (Yes, that is how the death certificate would have read for them.) We notified San Diego PD and they said we had to report it to our police department first, which we did. They then had to contact San Diego for help in their investigation. I am sure it has gone nowhere.

Lesson learned: DON'T USE THE SAME PASSWORDS! Duh.

Our local police officer told us he was working another investigation of someone who was receiving goods at his home and re-shipping them overseas to Africa. He was 'in love' with a 'girl' he had met on-line who he thought was doing mission work. 'She' was having an on-line romance with him and convinced him to re-send things he received to her. She said they were supplies and donations. He would simply receive, add a label, and ship. He didn't suspect anything until he received a big screen TV. It was then he alerted the authorities. Turns out all of the purchases were being made with stolen credit card numbers and he was unwittingly an accomplice.

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Victor:

Round trip ticket to Lindbergh Field (San Diego) is probably <$400. I'd take in some beach time while I was there.....

Then there's the SD zoo, Sea World, The Wild Animal Park, and TJ( the mexican one) is a short walk across the border.


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It was actually an HVAC contractor that got hacked with the Golden Key to Target's business network. Target itself did not get hacked, but there was an open access point thru the contractor. One comment I read is "this is a hackers dream come true". Find a weak link and you're in. That's what they are looking for.

I'm surprised that both systems were on the same network. You never do that!!, but it could just be an older setup, and things were left combined. Don't really know the fine details, and have never been in a Target store.

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I actually seen that statement somewhere to it was a hackers dream or perfect scenario they dream about


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What about hiring a private investigator? Failing that, a hitman?

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Originally Posted By: Rainman
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Not until it costs the banks more for the ID theft than the changeover will they do anything about it. :-(. No skin off their back leaving our bare butts in the breeze.

You guys scared me into submission and went through all of the effort in the past two days to protect our ID and check statuses. Looks clean right now... If only I could get my SSN converted to something new so all records of it would be disconnected (i.e. school records, old health insurance, etc)


Liquid, you CAN get your SSN changed by calling the SSA at 1-800-269-0271...However, I don't know if you have to document being a victim of identity theft for that to be done.


Rex, I know back a few years ago you did have to prove identity theft to get a new card. Surely DD1 falls under this if he chooses to get a new SSN. Credit card #'s are sold like Pokemon cards on the internet, and apparently that doesn't count. At least it didn't for us.


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The European system will only help marginally and not at all for online aspects.
















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Originally Posted By: Bluegillerkiller
I actually seen that statement somewhere to it was a hackers dream or perfect scenario they dream about


There is an article about this in a Control mag I get. Unfortunately, there are uncountable scenarios like this. The media just report the big ones.

There are hack proof ways of tying a business network to an industrial network. They both need info from each other. It's actually quite simple tho, and not very expensive. A hacker could never bridge this gap from one to the other. It's Impossible!!!

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