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Bobby, how good are you with a cast net? Think you can get some when they are at the feeder?

Anything big feeding that would tear up the cast net?


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Bobby I have a 40' sane. We need to get together and see if that will help. I may be coming down to your area next week or so to look a large wood chipper. If i do I will let you know.

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Cray,
I would love to run a seine, it would help remove the koi and might pull up some of the fish I have not been able to catch and see how and if they are doing. I have some structure to go around but I know where it all is.

Let me know when and if you are coming down. hopefuly it will be during a warm spell and not a cold snap. Ill try and recruit a litle help.

you can PM me when you know more about your schedual and we can try to figure something out. thank tons...

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I have castnetted a few, Actually the koi tore a hole in my net and I lost a few from the net. That was in the summer, they don't seem to be as strong and wild in the colder water so ill try again soon. Also if I goof the first toss they get spooked and stay away from the feed for period, thats what happened before. Smart buggers they are!

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Sounds good. I will let you know. I should know something in a few days.

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Originally Posted By: esshup
Bob:

I know you'll need a pre-importation permit - those are available free from the state. you need to apply for one at least 2 weeks before you plan on moving the fish.

I'm not 100% sure if every fish that is brought into the state has to be given a clean bill of health for VHS or not.

Call or e-mail the State Board of Animal Health to double check.


Scott if they are not on the VHS susceptible list there is no preimportation permit required. That is unless something has changed I don't know about.

Brook trout are an example. Not on that list so no pre-importation permit required.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Cecil, didn't that change last year when the regs changed here in Indiana? About the time the Feds dropped their support of the vets taking samples. (i.e. Jennifer)


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Cecil, didn't that change last year when the regs changed here in Indiana? About the time the Feds dropped their support of the vets taking samples. (i.e. Jennifer)


Hmmm... that is sounding vaguely familiar. I'll have to check my emails from Jennifer and and the email I sent you. blush

Damn it's hell getting old!

They say people get old in two ways: The mind stays sharp and the body goes, or the mind goes and the body stays in relatively good shape. I think I will be the latter!

Felt like an ornery ol' cuss today and blasted Purdue on the Ohio list serve for not making aquaculture more of a priority. I'm sure it will come back to bite me.

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Cecil, did ya say "damn it's hell getting cold or damn it's getting cold as hell"? Aw forget it, my mind dulled yrs ago and the body is going fast, no thanks to the new cleaning lady.
As far as bringin fish across the In border I appreciate your and Scotts concern but I intend to entice Rex to meet me in Lousiville and let him bring em in.


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There ya go Bob - let Rex get in trouble!!!


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ok, back to the pond

PondBoss Forum member "CRAY" was nice enough to offer himself and his 40' seine net to help me remove some of my koi. We are planning on doing it tomorrow (saturday). It has not been warm recently and the water is hanging right at or just above 60 so it could be a little cold. We will try to do it with out getting totally wet a frozen.

I will take as many pics and video as I can to share.

With any luck we will be able to seine up somthing unusual and verify its condition and or existance in the pond.

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Dumb question... Do birds of prey not target Koi in ponds? It seems controlling their population is tough, no natural predators, yet they are easy to spot given their coloration. I just wondered if osprey, eagle and whatever predators you have in your area target them?

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they are very pretty watch but are eating me out of house and home and stirring things up too much.

wish I had a market to sell 20+ inch koi


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Originally Posted By: BobbyRice






Bobby, here is what your Tarpon should look like when they grow a little. This was kind of a small one, only about 4'. We see some pushing 6' but not lately. Wife is in second picture.

Not very good pictures. I just use a GoPro with no lighting. Wife is the better photographer but she mostly focuses on macro. Fish was probably at about 70-80 feet deep. Under water they look like they are chrome plated.

Pretty spectacular fish. I've been diving with as many as 40 in a small cove. They would just part as we swam through the group. Cool

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Apologies for the sidetrack.


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Snrub, those are cool tarpon pics.
If I can get water clearing I could do that.


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Ok here is the big update from seine net saturday.....

Fish are smarter than people....

All we pulled up was some gams and a bunch of baby CNBG.

Not even an adult CNBG, you think at least we would have gotten one of those!

Three positive things from the day though .

1. We were able Castnet three large koi out by sight casting with the cast net. Bringing the total koi removed to 10.

2. Learned the CNBG are reproducing well, several differant size class fingerlings pulled up. Some seemed very young.

3. Got to meet and spend the day with fellow pondbosser "cray" and his family, turned out to be one of the most enjoyable days I've had in awhile regardless of our lack of reportings I know you all were all hoping for..

Nothing like goofing off around the pond with someone that enjoys it as much as you do, that's for sure.

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Sounds like a fun day Bobby.

Your pond is an interesting one and I always read about it any time I see a new post. Something quite different from the average pond.


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Bobby, seining is an art, and you have to have the proper sized brush for the canvas. The more that you do it, the better you'll get at doing it.


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Originally Posted By: esshup
Bobby, seining is an art, and you have to have the proper sized brush for the canvas. The more that you do it, the better you'll get at doing it.


Kinda like making coffee!


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Got in this afternoon from our trip down to Bobby's . My family and I realy enjoyed meeting bobby and his clan. Bobby realy does have a great BOW and although we didn't pull any of those unusual fish that he has stocked in his pond out, We did realy have a great time. He has a great plan laid out and I believe that as he moves forward we will be amazed by what we see. I brought back three beautiful koi and got them into my ornamental pond this afternoon. They seem to be adjusting to there change in latitude very well.

Bobby it was a blast!!

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Bros, you can't get together and not post a single picture.

Weak.


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Sunil, your right.
I was thinking the same thing. Clint got a few pics of the big fat koi we removed. Perhaps he will post them. As we didn't pull up any Fish up and didn't think you wanted to just see my ugly mug. I didn't post any .


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I spent a nice evening at the pond. Bread balls and Bream hooks seemed to work well for the koi, Landed 5 , three butter fly and two short finned. I removed the short finned bringing the total koi removed up to 12 so far.


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Ok I finally got pics on ipad so here they are.

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Super pic of you and your son


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