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#352551 - 10/01/13 03:51 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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djstauder,

I got skunked as far as my targetted fish this weekend, bad wind and tide........
My sister caught some yellow mouth sand trout in the river and kept a few. She put them in a wire fish basket and they got pretty beat up.
One made it to the pond and survived intaial transition to fresh water. I released it. It was seen the next day breaking the surface..
Either dieing or feeding not sure. if dieing not sure if from very rough handling or fresh water intolerance...

I will continue to try and source some speckled sea trout ...

realsed one bait mullet I had left with a tail trim....Got nailed by tarpon....
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#352632 - 10/02/13 09:49 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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how big do you estimate the tarpon?
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#352801 - 10/03/13 08:58 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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My buddy and I got 3- 18" Red Fish/ Red Drum ....

catch and released.....



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#352805 - 10/03/13 09:37 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Good work!
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#352837 - 10/04/13 08:43 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Bobby,
Is 18" the minimum size limit for redfish in Fla?
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#352842 - 10/04/13 09:13 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: djstauder]
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Originally Posted By: djstauder
Bobby,
Is 18" the minimum size limit for redfish in Fla?


yep
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#352936 - 10/04/13 09:57 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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A little pond management this weekend, some bricks for some crayfish or critter habitats. Another eel grass cage and a couple predators to stock. Cast net in tow, I have an idea for grass carp removal ....



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#353050 - 10/06/13 02:32 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Well it seems I have two tarpon in the pond.. They must have known it is my birthday....



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#353136 - 10/07/13 11:31 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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bobby,
They look great. Did they do some jumping for you?
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#353140 - 10/07/13 11:40 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Yes they did..I grabbed my heavier bait caster by mistake so it kind of manhandled them in,,,Probably why I was able to land them now that I think about it...The larger one was way stonger though...I realeased both and they seemed fine...

Also , I forgot to mention the Jack Crevalle took a stike at a lure for me but didnt stick...But I saw it, it looked healthy and was obviously feeding./...
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#353145 - 10/07/13 12:10 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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I'm still amazed that you are able to acclimate the brackish species to pure fresh water. Good job man!!!!!!!
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#353211 - 10/07/13 08:19 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Very neat Bobby, I can't wait to see what your pond is like in 5 years...
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#353481 - 10/10/13 11:39 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Originally Posted By: teehjaeh57
Amazing stuff Bobby...you really should write an article for PB on raising saltwater fish. It's a subject I know nothing about, except what you've imparted on the forum. I think it's groundbreaking science that needs to be shared with the entire community. I'd love to get all the details and find out what strategies and goals are.

Well done!


TJ,
I have given some thought to that idea. I am going to give a little more time and development so I have a little more to say about results.

It would be fun to see people in the right climate stock Jack Crevalle as bounus sport fish sorta how Hybrid stripers stocked..

I read that the FWC (Florida Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission) has considered offering small snook to stock in private waters. This would be awesome as sport and table fare for pond and lake owners. I doubt the funding will develope for this but a private hatchery is a differant story...Any one with a lot of money that wants to try and start up a hatchery im in to help out...
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#353486 - 10/10/13 01:40 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Bobby, do you have RES in there?
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#353489 - 10/10/13 01:53 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: Bocomo]
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Bobby, do you have RES in there?


YES, I have seen a few.
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#353506 - 10/10/13 06:10 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Might have been good that ya got em in quick. I'm in Bradenton now and have to chuckle when the weather people brag about this cool fall weather. 86 today and sweated profusely just spraying weeds.
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#353828 - 10/14/13 01:19 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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realeased two Flatties...

only could upload in regular D with cell service..

I will upload in HD with WiFI from home later so it is more clear.

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#353951 - 10/15/13 07:01 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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This video is not showing up on my phone. Can any one else see it?
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#353990 - 10/15/13 10:12 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Yeah, it played just fine for me.

Nice looking flounder... Amazing how quickly they can blend in to their surroundings. What is the maximum size of that species of flounder?
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#354039 - 10/15/13 04:56 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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http://www.sms.si.edu/IRLSpec/Parali_lethos.htm

Females get 36 inches 20 pounds...
Not sure what I have caught...
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#354070 - 10/15/13 09:07 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Interesting, says they tolerate temps down to 5 degrees C. Hopefully your pond stays warmer than that in the cold months.
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#354074 - 10/15/13 09:31 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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It does . Unless we get one of those 20-30 year record colds like we had 4 years ago.
I am hoping the artesian well at 72 degrees will keep that corner of the pond as a refuge...
The other fish are even a bit more sensitive so I am hoping for the best. I know they are resident fish in the interacoastal and river year round. They find warm pockets and deep holes during the very short freezes we get. ....
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#354083 - 10/15/13 09:55 PM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Yeah, there are some warm springs that help those river systems out... I am very interesting to see how the warm water loving fish in your pond fair during a few cold winters.
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#354122 - 10/16/13 12:22 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Please verify: tarpon, snook, flounder and redfish can live in fresh water? I mean, it seems obvious by your photos...but I want to make certain I'm not missing anything like your pond has access to brackish backwaters or high salinity, etc. You are merely acclimating them to fresh water incrementally?
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#354131 - 10/16/13 05:52 AM Re: EURYHALINE POND UPDATE [Re: RER]
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Not to answer for BR but that is correct TJ

I'll let him give you the details

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