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i was able to make it back out today and look again. i was able to see the water coming up from inside the holl. i took a measurement from the water coming up to property line. i can move the dam back about 12 feet. i could put a new core in behind the spring. my question is this, about 4 foot of the front side of the dam will be over top of the spring. would that be ok seeing the spring would be on the front of the dam and the core behind the spring? i could divert the spring over to the new creek and it can flow through the new pipe

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That is a very tough question. You need a good experienced dirt man who has seen it to even guess at that. I would not want an active spring at the front of my dam.
















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With a spring inside the dam I would be worried about the dam becoming saturated and failing.

last summer I had cray fish dig into the inside of the my dam during low water and once the water came up the dam became saturated and collapsed.


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i was able to talk today with the man thats going to help finish building the dam. he has built about 25 ponds. he said that the spring that i hit when putting in my core is a real good spring. he said that he can put the front side of the dam behind the spring. the dam was going to go straight across but now it will have a horseshoe look to it. we will have to do the core over again. Will this be ok? i can't move the entire dam back do to the property line and another creek that goes by the dam. ( that has just run off water)

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I am assuming that you mean the spring will be in the pond. If this is so, then if the source of the spring drops below the level of the pond at full pool, the pond level will also drop. Think of it like two buckets of water connected by a small tube from the bottom of one bucket to the other. It could help all the time or just sometimes, and it could hurt sometimes. Surrounding the spring with something to contain the water, during a dry time, may help you predict how it will behave. This could be a culvert or earthen wall depending on the way things are arranged in your situation. You may even be able to drive a pipe in and see how high the water rises in the pipe if you can seal it off well.

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i was able to talk today with the man thats going to help finish building the dam. he has built about 25 ponds. he said that the spring that i hit when putting in my core is a real good spring. he said that he can put the front side of the dam behind the spring. the dam was going to go straight across but now it will have a horseshoe look to it. we will have to do the core over again. Will this be ok? i can't move the entire dam back do to the property line and another creek that goes by the dam. ( that has just run off water)

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i thank i understand what you are talking about. as of right now i have about 4 springs feeding into the pond sight. water off those 4 springs a total of about 11 gallons a minute. i have 4 more springs inside the pond sight that are coming up and running over to the new pipe. i have walked down the creek behind where the dam is going to be and i did not see any more springs coming up. i am sure the springs don't stop on my land. the man that has land behind me had a 2 acre pond right behind where mine is going. he said his always stayed up and never had a problem until a bad storm came in 1998 it rained so hard that water came over the dam and washed it out. he didn't want to spend the money to rebuild it.

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That is what emergency spillways are for. We got a 100 year rain two weeks after my pond was built. The pond builder thought I went a bit overboard on my design but came back right after the rain and said that I was the only one of 5 that he built in the last 3 years that was not going to need repair.

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so is it a bad thing to have springs inside your pond? i guess it would be ok as long as the water pressure coming in is stronger than the water pressure that th pond will have when it is full?

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It is usually a bad thing. You're betting that the water table won't drop below the level of the springs.


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If you can have the water in the spring enter above the full-pool of the pond, then it is a good thing, otherwise it depends on the spring and the elevation of the water that feeds it, especially during dry times.

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is there anything that i could look for at the pond sight that maybe would let me know if the springs will be ok in the pond? i could move the dam up hill about 400 feet but i would have to clear more trees off. also not sure if i would hit more springs. the first spring is about 800 foot above the pond sight and there are more coming down making about 15 gallons or so a minute before it would come into the pond sight. so i thank it's a real good chance ill hit more. also there is about 30 acres off run off coming down into the pond sight

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Is there a way that you could surround the pond with dirt to see how high it pushes?

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If the water table drops you don't have a spring, you have a drain.

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i don't have a way to put dirt around the spring. iv have never seen any of the springs dry up or slow down very much even in the dry part of the summer

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You just might be OK.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

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Thanks. i guess I'll go on and give it a go and pray for the best. probably b next summer unless the ran stops. I'll update when im done. thanks for everyones info!

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I have a pond that is leaking. Have you ever heard of using dust from the quarrying of limestone to seal the pond? thanks Flitchman

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