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#345074 - 07/24/13 10:47 PM Its a SAD day
mattyg06 Offline

Registered: 05/09/13
Posts: 11
Loc: Tx
Our family has a piece of land in Cisco,Tx and over the last few week with the large storm that oddly swept in from the east in the middle of July dumped 10+" as verified by our neighbor. We were very exited to see the tank fill up for the first time since we have had the property over 5+ years. We stocked some LMB March 2012 and earlier this summer we had been catching 2.5+ lbs regularly. At that point we had about 2 surface acres of water. The tank was initially bone dry with small hole in the top of the damn that was what we thought was fixed by a local dozer guy, but were wrong. We have a watershed of what I think is about 100 acres and when we went to see the full tank we saw a 3 ft gouge out of road leading to the dam and an completely blown through dam.

We've had a couple of bids to fix it but the estimates vary from zero loads of dirt needed to over 100 loads of dirt needed with no good way of telling.

We know at one point the original owners flooded the front pastures as irrigation so they had the ability to release water which I know we never inquired about.

After reading this forum it sounds like Mike Otto is a guy we will get in touch with soon or if anyone was near Cisco that is reputable pond builder.

I know this post is rambling but it is hard to talk about it because it is gives me a sickening feeling.

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#345076 - 07/24/13 11:00 PM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
esshup Offline
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Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 23086
Loc: Grovertown, Indiana
That's terrible! I agree, give Otto a call, you can't go wrong.

3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

#345080 - 07/24/13 11:15 PM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
Yolk Sac Offline


Registered: 02/06/07
Posts: 1208
Loc: Nashville
We had something similar happen during our "100 year" flood 3 years ago. It's amazing what water and gravity can accomplish when it comes to moving dirt!
Feel for you, m06, but make the best of it, get Otto to look, maximize pond size/contours/overflow protection.

#345083 - 07/25/13 05:08 AM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
Dave Davidson1 Offline

Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 12353
Loc: Hurst & Bowie, Texas
My condolences; that's awful. When rebuilt, install a siphon drain. 100 acres is a lot of runoff area. I wouldn't expect another 10 inch flood. Cisco is usually hurting for rain.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

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#345094 - 07/25/13 09:14 AM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
brook wilson Offline

Registered: 10/03/12
Posts: 178
Loc: south central illinois
So sorry.

#345107 - 07/25/13 10:18 AM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
mattyg06 Offline

Registered: 05/09/13
Posts: 11
Loc: Tx
Dave, I agree about that not happening often, but with climate change we are obviously getting different weather patterns that we are used to. Like I said the tank was 100% bone dry when we bought the property a few years ago but in the last year we have had summer floods that all the locals can't remember the last time they have had any summer floods let alone 2 consecutive years.

#345114 - 07/25/13 11:15 AM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
Cisco Offline

Registered: 08/20/09
Posts: 709
Loc: DFW & Cisco,TX
My place is just north of Cisco about 10 miles. I do know a guy there that did the renovation on my pond a few years ago. I haven't talked to him lately but I did hear he had retired. You might have already talked to him. I haven't talked with Mike Otto but from what I hear, he's the one you need. Let me know if you want to talk to my guy.
It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance?
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#345128 - 07/25/13 02:00 PM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
djstauder Offline
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Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 809
Loc: Mississippi
Can't think of a better word than you used: sickening!
1 ac pond LMB, BG, RES, CC

#345129 - 07/25/13 02:08 PM Re: Its a SAD day [Re: mattyg06]
mattyg06 Offline

Registered: 05/09/13
Posts: 11
Loc: Tx
Cisco we would love to hear from your guy especially since is very local to the area.

I added a few more pictures. The red spot shows the location of the breach. That area photo was taken a few months ago and that was the pool level before the flood about 3 acres. When the rain hit we know for a few atleast a few hours it was totally filled to the full level which would have 25' deep and 11 acres.

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