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Roots verified the name cattails. Good naming by others.


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I noticed this guy today. What is it and should I be concerned? Thanks


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Crickets. Who can get this before Bill?


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Alligatorweed, and yes - you should be very concerned. It is an exotic/invasive.
BTW: a profile view of the plant would make it easier to verify that the leaves are arranged opposingly rather than in a alternating manner.
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Originally Posted By: Kelly Duffie
Alligatorweed, and yes - you should be very concerned. It is an exotic/invasive.
BTW: a profile view of the plant would make it easier to verify that the leaves are arranged opposingly rather than in a alternating manner.
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I noticed this guy today. What is it and should I be concerned? Thanks

I'll try to get better pics tomorrow as I remove it. Thanks Kelly.

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I have problems again. That's grass or algae is spreading like the plaque.


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Sorry the stuff I mentioned at conference. Not the pond grass or cattails. Need some
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Sure looks like FA to me -- Bill?

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It is one of the early spring FA. It is a guess which one it is. Notice the tree leaves in it. What happened is it started growing on the bottom as with all FA. Sinking tree leaves likely dropped on top of it. When the FA get thicker it usually floats to the surface where you see it now. Do you believe in tilapia? They will eat it thus you can turn the FA into fish biomass. Or you can use an algaecide such as Cutrine-Plus or similar copper base algaecide and blend it with some water (see directions) and spray the mats. Secondary choice is dissolve some copper sulfate in water (1 cup per 4-5 gallons) and spray the mats. There are tremendous numbers (hundreds of thousands if not millions) of micro invertebrates, primarily benthic zooplankton and rotifers living among the FA mat. Using herbicides on the mat will also kill lots of those micro-invertebrates. IMO you are best turning a big portion of it into tilapia biomass.

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Thanks bill. No go on tilapia in my state. I took leaf rake to front side today. Dam side is drop off. Grass carp?


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Have the same stuff here John.

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Lucky I have a small pond. Pulled out one side today with garden rack and dumped on back side of dam.


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I was going to get pics for spark of what I suspect are 18 oz HBG.


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Originally Posted By: John Wann
I was going to get pics for spark of what I suspect are 18 oz HBG.


Going to get? So now I'm left just hanging here? wink


"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
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Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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Originally Posted By: John Wann
Lucky I have a small pond. Pulled out one side today with garden rack and dumped on back side of dam.


I also did a bunch today with a landscape rake. Mostly cleared out sections along the bank so we can fish easier. The stuff sucks trying to get a lure from the water without fouling it with the FA.

I ordered some Cutrine plus but it has not got here yet. Did a section with hydrated lime a few days ago and it seems like the lime did a fair job to it.

Would like to do as Bill Cody suggests and use tilipia. But have not made arrangements for any yet.

Really have mixed feelings about the FA. I have tons of small FHM and BG in and around the stuff. Looked through some of it a while back and like Bill says the FA is loaded with tiny critters. So as far as my fish are concerned, the FA is doing at least some of the job pond weeds would do if I had any (pond still too new yet for any to be established). But the stuff got completely unsightly last year.

So while I don't mind having some FA for the critters in it and small fish refuge, I'm going to try to keep it from going completely bezerk this year like it did last year. It is starting out strong so I need to keep on top of it. It is using so many nutrients out of the water, my water is exceptionally clear. My other ponds have a nice green cast from planktonic algae but this pond has so much FA it is not getting a good bloom. With the rake today I mixed as far down the bank as I could all the black muck I could stir up. Maybe that will get some nutrients in suspension and will get a plantonic algae bloom. That would go a long ways in keeping the FA in check. Right now I can see 5' deep in the pond, and FA growing down to that depth. If I don't do something to keep it in check I'm afraid it will really get out of hand this year.

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Lol Tony. I took the scale and tape measure to pond that day for pics. Goal pics of HBG. It was an unusually warm day for this time of year. After being disgusted
by FA on my hook fast. Next thing I know I'm racking it out. Wife has been out of town so I'll get down to pond asap for pics. I caught one last week with no scale and my phone was in truck. I was like a little kid opening a present. I rushed it back to water. I fed the fish some AquaMax that night for first time. They tore it up. Hope it isn't to early. Hope to hear from vertex soon on my aeration unit.


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Lucky I have a small pond. Pulled out one side today with garden rack and dumped on back side of dam.


I also did a bunch today with a landscape rake. Mostly cleared out sections along the bank so we can fish easier. The stuff sucks trying to get a lure from the water without fouling it with the FA.

I ordered some Cutrine plus but it has not got here yet. Did a section with hydrated lime a few days ago and it seems like the lime did a fair job to it.

Would like to do as Bill Cody suggests and use tilipia. But have not made arrangements for any yet.

Really have mixed feelings about the FA. I have tons of small FHM and BG in and around the stuff. Looked through some of it a while back and like Bill says the FA is loaded with tiny critters. So as far as my fish are concerned, the FA is doing at least some of the job pond weeds would do if I had any (pond still too new yet for any to be established). But the stuff got completely unsightly last year.

So while I don't mind having some FA for the critters in it and small fish refuge, I'm going to try to keep it from going completely bezerk this year like it did last year. It is starting out strong so I need to keep on top of it. It is using so many nutrients out of the water, my water is exceptionally clear. My other ponds have a nice green cast from planktonic algae but this pond has so much FA it is not getting a good bloom. With the rake today I mixed as far down the bank as I could all the black muck I could stir up. Maybe that will get some nutrients in suspension and will get a plantonic algae bloom. That would go a long ways in keeping the FA in check. Right now I can see 5' deep in the pond, and FA growing down to that depth. If I don't do something to keep it in check I'm afraid it will really get out of hand this year.


Same here. It was horrible last year on every pond I saw. The stuff just exploded in a few days and covered about 90% of my pond before I gave up and sprayed it with Cutrine. I put Aquashade in it last fall and it seems to have helped in the deep water but it is coming back strong in the shallows already.

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