Pond Boss Magazine
http://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
TXDraht, SteelersFan, Ref, Criegg, KarenJ
15898 Registered Users
Forum Stats
15899 Members
36 Forums
36506 Topics
497301 Posts

Max Online: 1210 @ 08/23/18 11:01 PM
Top Posters
esshup 24033
Cecil Baird1 20043
ewest 19782
Dave Davidson1 13783
Bill Cody 12769
Who's Online
12 registered (Zep, Jtparker779, bassmaster61, Bocomo, Dave_IA, Brad Holister, Jjksswan98, Shorty, BrianL, Clay N' Pray, Bing, ShaneM), 201 Guests and 177 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Topic Options
#334045 - 05/09/13 03:29 PM Growing larger fish in a small pond
Jason362 Offline


Registered: 05/09/13
Posts: 2
Loc: Ky USA
I have recently purchased a house with a small pond on it, less than 1/4 acre. From what I can tell there is only catfish and bluegill in it. I have counted about 10 catfish about 1 to 2lbs in it at one time, and there was hundreds of bluegill but seems their numbers have diminished since the catfish have became more active this spring. My pond has no cover in it at all for fish so should I put a small tree in it for the bluegill to hide, and will this help them become larger? Also I have no fresh water coming into the pond so I've heard catfish will not spawn, is there anything I can do to make it better habitat for them to spawn, and grow bigger?

Top
#334050 - 05/09/13 04:02 PM Re: Growing larger fish in a small pond [Re: Jason362]
RC51 Offline
Ambassador
Lunker

Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 4257
Loc: Arkansas
Hey Jason welcome to the PBF!

In a pond that size it may be better if you start all over. Your BG may be stunted and way to many. Your cats have no real food left at there size to eat. Either it's to small a fish and the cats can't gain any weight or they cant eat the BG you have as the BG are just a little to big for them. You really have to regualte that sort of thing in a smaller pond or it can get out of control fast! Some cover would help the BG from being eating so easy, but not sure if that's what you want if you have to many in there the last thing you want to do is give time somewhere to hide too!! smile

Could you and a buddy take a large net to the pond and see what you got in it? That may help you decide what to do.

Starting a feeding program for the BG wouldn't hurt either. It wouldn't take much with the right food.
_________________________
The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!

Top
#334064 - 05/09/13 04:56 PM Re: Growing larger fish in a small pond [Re: Jason362]
fish n chips Offline


Registered: 09/06/11
Posts: 2315
Loc: Northeast Ohio
Welcome Jason,

What do you want to get back from the pond?

If you just want a CC hole, then you might have the makings for it already. If you want trophy BG, well that might be a different path. I wouldn't worry to much about them spawning, buy little ones every year to resupply the ones you take out. You have better control that way.

You mentioned growing bigger CC, if you feed the BG as RC mentioned, you will feed them in two ways, more and bigger BG and they will eat the feed too. Putting a tree in there won't necessarily get the BG larger, it takes food to do that. It might help more young BG survive, but if there isn't food for them they will stunt.

Top
#334125 - 05/09/13 11:10 PM Re: Growing larger fish in a small pond [Re: Jason362]
Jason362 Offline


Registered: 05/09/13
Posts: 2
Loc: Ky USA
Thanks guys,
I believe I'd rather have a good CC pond than BG. But wouldn't mind for both fish in the pond get a lil bigger. About how many CC should a pond my size have, to maintain healthy decent size CC?

On a diff note I thought about putting some largemouth in there, just for my 3YO to catch. If I do that about how many would you put in a pond that size, and while they survive with no fresh water?


Also its about 7ft deep, 10 to 12ft after alot of rain.
Thanks again

Top
#334134 - 05/10/13 12:10 AM Re: Growing larger fish in a small pond [Re: Jason362]
esshup Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 24033
Loc: Grovertown, Indiana
It's not about the numbers of fish, it's about the weight of fish in the pond. If you are not aerating and feeding, then a pond can reliably hold about 300# of fish per acre. If fed and aerated, a pond can hold at least double that amount per acre.

CC are cavity spawners. But, with the price of 10" catfish so reasonable, you probably shouldn't want them to reproduce in your pond. Utilize them as a catch and keep fish. Catch and keep 20 to eat this summer, stock 20 more in the Spring. Don't do a catch and release - I've found that CC get very hook wise quickly.

If you stock LMB, I would be positive to only stock same sex fish. LMB can eat themselves out of house and home in a pond, so reproducing LMB in a small pond will take more work on your part to keep them under control.

If it was my pond, I'd find someone with a seine, and seine out the pond, restocking with CC, Hybrid Bluegills nad maybe 5-10 HSB. Feed 'em and catch and keep for dinner, restocking every year. Look inot a small aeration system for the pond too.
_________________________
www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Top

Today's Birthdays
cobra01, Dan123, micam5, Rich B, woodster
Recent Posts
Bo-jo fishing light
by bassmaster61
0 seconds ago
Green slime - newbie question
by bassmaster61
13 minutes 0 seconds ago
Sharing Alkalinity and pH-what does it mean.
by bassmaster61
25 minutes 42 seconds ago
One and done game feeders
by Dave Davidson1
Today at 11:48 AM
Tires for structure?
by Acoursey
Today at 09:28 AM
On Mutt Pond
by Bill D.
Today at 08:17 AM
Stocking pond with fathead minnows
by Ibanez540r
Yesterday at 09:51 PM
Polaris and surfactant mix rate
by Bill Cody
Yesterday at 09:45 PM
Biggest fish to date!
by JohnR
Yesterday at 09:41 PM
Gypsum
by Pat Williamson
Yesterday at 05:46 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Help with defuser placement
Long Pond
Getting the Wood Puck houses done
Coon Pond Photos
Pond dig 3
Pond dig 2

2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide