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Volcanic activity caused that summer IIRC.

39 here this morning. Very cold for almost May.

The Year Without a Summer (also known as the Poverty Year, The Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death[1]) was 1816, in which severe summer climate abnormalities caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F),[2] resulting in major food shortages across the Northern Hemisphere.[3][4] It is believed that the anomaly was caused by a combination of a historic low in solar activity with a volcanic winter event, the latter caused by a succession of major volcanic eruptions capped by the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora, in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), the largest known eruption in over 1,300 years, which occurred during the concluding decades of the Little Ice Age, potentially adding to the existing cooling that had been periodically ongoing since 1350 AD
















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Originally Posted By: kenc
You are the ultimate optimist, aren't you Cecil?


Nope just find weather and other natural phenomenon fascinating.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Originally Posted By: ewest
Volcanic activity caused that summer IIRC.

39 here this morning. Very cold for almost May.

The Year Without a Summer (also known as the Poverty Year, The Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death[1]) was 1816, in which severe summer climate abnormalities caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F),[2] resulting in major food shortages across the Northern Hemisphere.[3][4] It is believed that the anomaly was caused by a combination of a historic low in solar activity with a volcanic winter event, the latter caused by a succession of major volcanic eruptions capped by the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora, in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), the largest known eruption in over 1,300 years, which occurred during the concluding decades of the Little Ice Age, potentially adding to the existing cooling that had been periodically ongoing since 1350 AD


Yes that's what the link said that I posted.


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Grand River in Grand Rapids, MI set an all time flood record. Still going up!









Army Corps said Lake Michigan (at Luddington, MI) is up a foot from the rain. News reports are saying between 6-9" fell in the last several days.

Last Thursday I took the scenic rout to a project. Stopped by an old WE haunt. Looked pretty dismal due to the high water. Then, I started reading some of the signs posted. The area was converted into some sort of bass refuge, and I am going WT?, who thunked this one up! crazy

Just down the road couple miles, a former long time fish farm was under water.

Hey Cecil, Esshup, I wonder how John fared with all this rain? His area is pretty soggy to begin with. I am heading that way later, so I'll scope it out.




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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
Originally Posted By: ewest
Volcanic activity caused that summer IIRC.

39 here this morning. Very cold for almost May.

The Year Without a Summer (also known as the Poverty Year, The Summer that Never Was, Year There Was No Summer and Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death[1]) was 1816, in which severe summer climate abnormalities caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F),[2] resulting in major food shortages across the Northern Hemisphere.[3][4] It is believed that the anomaly was caused by a combination of a historic low in solar activity with a volcanic winter event, the latter caused by a succession of major volcanic eruptions capped by the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora, in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), the largest known eruption in over 1,300 years, which occurred during the concluding decades of the Little Ice Age, potentially adding to the existing cooling that had been periodically ongoing since 1350 AD


Yes that's what the link said that I posted.


I thought I read that earlier wink

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Originally Posted By: JKB
Grand River in Grand Rapids, MI set an all time flood record. Still going up!









Army Corps said Lake Michigan (at Luddington, MI) is up a foot from the rain. News reports are saying between 6-9" fell in the last several days.

Last Thursday I took the scenic rout to a project. Stopped by an old WE haunt. Looked pretty dismal due to the high water. Then, I started reading some of the signs posted. The area was converted into some sort of bass refuge, and I am going WT?, who thunked this one up! crazy

Just down the road, couple miles, a former long time fish farm was under water.

Hey Cecil, Esshup, I wonder how John fared with all this rain? His area is pretty soggy to begin with. I am heading that way later, so I'll scope it out.





Yeah let us know Phil. He doesn't have a stream or river nearby does he?


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There is a creek down the road, but nothing that would be of concern. With how many high-n-dry fields up here that look like lakes, I would be surprised if he did not have a bit extra water than he planned for!

Good argument for RAS, eh!

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Just playing with you, Cecil.


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Geese, it was 24 degrees this morning -- 27 in my greenhouse. I'm afraid to go look at what had been really healthy plants yesterday afternoon.


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Esshup, How much did your pond come up?


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Originally Posted By: kenc
Just playing with you, Cecil.


No worries. I didn't take it as a slight or anything.


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Originally Posted By: JKB
There is a creek down the road, but nothing that would be of concern. With how many high-n-dry fields up here that look like lakes, I would be surprised if he did not have a bit extra water than he planned for!

Good argument for RAS, eh!


Yeah and on top of that a lot less flow needed too!

BTW, I had some discussions with some very knowledgeable people at our last conference. Seems the trout systems Summerfelt et al. are pushing -- which are really partial RAS due to the massive amount of make up water -- are overkill according to some well respected people in the field I know. Good to know! According to Summerfelt for trout and salmon you have to replace the entire tank volume ever day. Kind of defeats the purpose of an RAS IMHO.


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In spite of the cold temps we have new fry LMB and RES spawning.
















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Originally Posted By: ewest
In spite of the cold temps we have new fry LMB and RES spawning.


What do you consider cold temps Eric? grin

My parents call me from Florida and tell me it's cooooold down there. When I ask them what the temp is they usually say 60's! That's nice up here this time of year!

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HA! Supposed to have rain today/tonight, which could be over 1", then snow flurries tomorrow morning.

While we could really use the rain here, people in surrounding countis are sick of the water.


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We might break our record low tonight in Lincoln if it gets down to 23 degrees like they think it might. eek

The good news it that we had 1.3" of rain yesterday from the storm that is now heading east. That is the most rain we have seen from a single event in over a year.



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Dwight, you got any more snowy pictures? My feet are burning from walking in the mountains and I need something to cool them down.


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Okay, had about enough rain and wind!!! The new flag is about to break the flag pole and the pond is higher than it was last week!!!

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Wasn't supposed to rain today, but it is! Could be some snow by morning. Yuck!

I really am tired about this weather that has been happening, but it may just be payback time!

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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
Originally Posted By: JKB
There is a creek down the road, but nothing that would be of concern. With how many high-n-dry fields up here that look like lakes, I would be surprised if he did not have a bit extra water than he planned for!

Good argument for RAS, eh!


Yeah and on top of that a lot less flow needed too!

BTW, I had some discussions with some very knowledgeable people at our last conference. Seems the trout systems Summerfelt et al. are pushing -- which are really partial RAS due to the massive amount of make up water -- are overkill according to some well respected people in the field I know. Good to know! According to Summerfelt for trout and salmon you have to replace the entire tank volume ever day. Kind of defeats the purpose of an RAS IMHO.


John was pretty dry when I drove by. To the East, it got a bit wet tho.

I never pay attention to that crew any more. They went crazy a while back wink

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Freezing rain in NW Oklahoma. Many small towns are without power up there. Just a cold drizzle in the rest of Oklahoma.

By the way, I am liking this new pattern of raining once a week.

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Still raining!!!

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Originally Posted By: jludwig


By the way, I am liking this new pattern of raining once a week.


Amen! As long as the farmers get their crops in I won't complain about a cool wet summer! My brook trout won't either.


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