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Fishing, pumping down three feet for seining, and finally a complete pump down will lead to the complete removal of unwanted fish, and the temporary holding of large female yellow perch, male bluegill, and smallmouth bass in a smaller holding pond until the pond is filled back up.

The pond is supposed to be an all female yellow perch and male bluegill pond to concentrate biomass in trophy size fish, which I sell to the taxidermy market. Unfortunately three years ago a floating cage that held both male and female bluegill was pushed under the surface by ice during a thaw. That quickly started the game plan unraveling. I also was sorting male and female perch near the pond water and had two male perch flop out of my hand into the pond.

To show you how strong the will to reproduce is I once had male only yellow perch in a floating cage. On one bottom corner of the cage there was a piece of zip tie sticking out. Came out to the cage one day and couldn't believe my eyes. A female had draped her eggs on the zip tie! How much you wanna bet the males in the cage fertilized them? I ran to the house to get a dip net and by the time I got back there the eggs had fallen off!

We've moved close to three hundred female yellow perch via fishing and seining. Esshup has been a big help and is always available if I need him. It works the other way too if he needs me.

The anglers that moved a serious amount of fish ice fishing and open water were Bill LaVigne, Norm Ramsey, Gary LaRue, Gary Hudson, and Bill's son-in-law whose name escapes me.

Anyway here are pictures Norm Ramsey took the other day:

The seine in the water along one side of the pier looking south:



The seine in the water next to the pier looking north:



Bringing the seine around on the south side of the pond:
















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Forming a final circle:



Me lollygagging while Scott does all the work.



Me pretending to work in the green jacket and Scott in the background.



There's Scott the master seiner.



Scott again. He dipped and I grabbed the net and put them in the tank on the shore.



You're not seeing where Scott (Esshup) got down in the clay and mud to get those fish out. Yours truly didn't get very dirty or work as hard as Scott did. grin

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Great project pictures. And well coordinated. What were the results?

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Originally Posted By: Omaha
Great project pictures. And well coordinated. What were the results?


Why is that important? smirk

I'm in the process of loading the pictures. You beat me to it. grin


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A 9.5 inch bluegill that weighs over a pound. I try not to sell anything under 10 inches. Wouldn't you know it most of the gills are just under 10 inches. Maybe Condello bred brains into the bluegills too?



Some bull gills that have just been put into the cooler before moving them STAT to the holding pond.



A big perch one of up to 300 females that have been moved to the holding pond via angling and seining. This one is just under 14 inches.



Once again I don't sell any under 14 inches. Wouldn't you know it 99.9 percent of them are between 12 1/2 and just under 14 inches?

One of 31 smallmouth bass from 12 to 17 1/4 inches. This one was 17 1/4 inches. Didn't weigh it. All beautifully marked fish.



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Wow, some awesome fish! Is the water naturally that color? Looks a lot like mine which is rich in limestone.

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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
Originally Posted By: Omaha
Great project pictures. And well coordinated. What were the results?


Why is that important? smirk

I'm in the process of loading the pictures. You beat me to it. grin



Just me being nosy! Great looking fish. Can't wait to see the results of the new project. And of course most were a quarter inch short. crazy

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Nice bg's! I've never seen sunfish get that big a private pond. How old do you think the majority of the bg's are?

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Four to five years old?


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Originally Posted By: Omaha
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Great project pictures. And well coordinated. What were the results?


Why is that important? smirk

I'm in the process of loading the pictures. You beat me to it. grin



Just me being nosy! Great looking fish. Can't wait to see the results of the new project. And of course most were a quarter inch short. crazy


No problem Omaha.

No more seining or draining of this pond if I'm careful and don't have any cages in the pond. Harvest will be by hook and line from now on. My thinking is Scott gets all my female bluegills, questionable sex bluegills, and male perch and when I need some broodfish if those sexes I can come over a catch a few. It's not that I need very many. I've also thought of getting some broodfish of those sexes from a few lakes around here to interject some new genes. Or maybe not a good idea?

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Cecil, I know the flooding of the cage caused all this, but you have to be proud of the results.

Absolutely beautiful fish.


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Well done. I hope we can manage our perch half as good. Great work it will pay off for you soon enough.

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I've also thought of getting some broodfish of those sexes from a few lakes around here to interject some new genes. Or maybe not a good idea?
I don't think I would do that cecil just my inexperienced opinion but common sense dictates leave well enough alone.

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Here's the next phase as I pump down the rest of the water. This eight foot stock tank is filled with water next to the pier with a sump pump.



Even when full it won't sink. As the pond goes down it goes down until it rests on the bottom.



Once the pond is down to a few inches the remaining flopping fish are picked up by walking on the bottom of the pond and thrown into the tank of fresh water. Then loaded in five gallon buckets and carried out. The pond is entered and left via a ladder.


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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
I've also thought of getting some broodfish of those sexes from a few lakes around here to interject some new genes. Or maybe not a good idea?


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I don't think I would do that cecil just my inexperienced opinion but common sense dictates leave well enough alone.


You're probably right. Interestingly the big bad VHS virus the federal government warned us about is nowhere to be found. They've tested numerous bodies of water in my state and nothing. No more outbreaks in years anywhere else although fish do test positive in all the major Great Lakes ports. Funny thing is no clinical sign of disease.

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Very nice fish Cecil !!!
















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Now that is a very innovative, cool idea (the blue tank). They don't jump right back out I assume.

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Pretty neat Cecil! Those are some nice fish!



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No they don't seem to jump out but there will be fish in the tank already if it's like last time!

Correction: I sunk two tanks to the bottom last time so there won't be any fish automatically in the blue tank this time.

I haven't had perch or bluegills do much jumping in a tank unless they are startled in my indoor RAS tanks. They seem more interested in hiding.

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Great pictures and great looking fish!!

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Very cool Cecil! Nice job of documenting, and an interesting read!

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JKB, whatever Cecil didn't want to put in his ponds came home with me instead of tossing them on the bank for the scavengers (well, there were a couple of exceptions.....).

Cecil, if you need me to source any BG from other parts of the country in my travels, just let me know. Maybe a back cross to a certain Nebraska strain?

You are correct, anytime you need fish, and I have them, consider them yours.


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Cecil, don't forget to take pictures of the next phase. Can Norm come over and take pictures? Please tell him that he did a great job!


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Originally Posted By: liquidsquid
Wow, some awesome fish! Is the water naturally that color? Looks a lot like mine which is rich in limestone.


That's remnants of Aquashade.


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Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Cecil, I know the flooding of the cage caused all this, but you have to be proud of the results.

Absolutely beautiful fish.


Thanks for the kind words but I'll let you know how proud I am when I get the pond drained, refilled, and the fish back in the pond. Just thinking about it makes me tired.


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